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Sure, the nickname is older, however the forum is more likely to be what today's readers are looking for. This redirect is especially useful because of the convoluted spelling of "/r/The_Donald". Finally, there is no article on the nickname, and the list of presidential nicknames is just not a
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I'd like to echo Molandfreak's comment. The primary topic for "The Donald" is the dude, not the subreddit about the dude, and the idea that "today's readers" are looking for a subreddit more than the man himself is preposterous. The subreddit only gets
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This is insane..I can`t even follow what it is about..there has been no discussion on the trump page for a week..what is the purpose of the talk page and what is the purpose of this article ?
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The Reddit forum is merely a fan site for the person who is the primary topic. It does not approach the notability of the topic itself! (and as a subreddit, its name starts with "r/"). —
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This was debated several times, and indeed nobody argues that the reddit forum is a primary topic compared with the president, but on the other hand the title
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has no clear primary topic, which is why it is best rendered as a small dab page. This setup has been stable since the last discussion in December 2018:
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How is a redirect to the subreddit page more relevant? Trump has been known by this nickname a lot longer than the subreddit has existed.--
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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per JFG. I think the reddit is more common at the moment, though not overwhelmingly so. Cheers
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Sure, sounds fine to me. I believe that is how it is done on most other disambiguation pages.
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for how Knowledge chooses to reference former presidents, always in past tense.
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due Trump's role in giving an AMA in that subreddit during the election.
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close. I think it's pretty obvious what the community thinks here.
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Fresh discussion on appropriate target or conversion to dab page
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Request: Converting this Redirect into a Disambiguation Page
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Talk:Donald Trump/Archive 93#Hatnote for /r/The_Donald
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for the term, and (perhaps unfortunately) it is not
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