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The final line suggests that, although she may love him and be willing to marry him, the idea of pre-marital sex to her, a lady before our more liberal age, is not something she would wish to go through with. I'm not saying this is the only reading of the poem, but I definitely feel it would be worth
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Also, I feel the article should include reference to how the poem echoes Romeo and Juliet (two "star-crossed lovers" whose families are against one another.) Porphyro is even called "A famish’d pilgrim," which would follow from a line in the Shakespeare.
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The article seems pretty cut and dry that Madeline and Porphyro are already in love, however the poem itself is much more circumspect as to whether or not it was a willing copulation; when she first sees him, for example;
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A central question not discussed in the article is: did they suffer the pangs of unrequited love, or did they actually get it on when "the rose melted into the violet," before she said "Alas! This is no dream!"
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This does not make complete sense to me: "She was condemned to be executed after being raped all night in a brothel; however, a miraculous thunderstorm saved her from rape."
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Or when he informs her that this is not a dream, she responds unhappily, aware of the consequences of his being with her, alone and naked, in her bedroom.
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Well considering Keats' relationship with Fanny, I think the much richer reading is one where they don't "get it on" as you phrase it.
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Believing him to be part of her dream, she relates how the real him does not live up to her expectations;
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I've removed that stuff about the rape. It's not relevant to the poem. Yes, the original text survives.
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Also, does the original text survive - the text that had to be toned down? --
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