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Apologies for bringing this up again but I couldn't help but notice that last night on Raw, Orton, Rhodes and DiBiase were shown as collectively being named as "Legacy". I thought that maybe that would put an end to the name dispute. As for a while now, they have just been reffered to as being named
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Ok..now the article has a section labled "Split". Look..I know it appears that they are going to break up the group, but I still maintain that nothing is official yet. When the wrestlers walk toward the ring and their names are shown on television, it still says "Legacy" under their names. This
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I personally find that a bit wordy, not to mention redundant. The fact that it says "multi-generational wrestler" means that family members were professional wrestlers before them, so why does that need to be included? Basically, why do we need to state the same information in two different way in
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December the proto group took out Batista for four months, then
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It seems a bit odd to call those guys "Legacy" but call them "The Legacy" when they have Orton with them. Also, I haven't heard them being called "The Legacy" on TV for quite some time now. But I guess The Bash tonight might solve the name dispute if we listen to see what they're called throughout
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Yeah, it's still not notable if they disbanded. But, certain people have edited the article believing the team is finished. I mean, this angle has been playing out for how long now? And every week they're still together. The fact of the matter that is yet still not notable. I, too, agree that by
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Cody and Ted are referred to as The Legacy members. I'm not denying they are referred to without the definite article but there is simply no consistency. Also another reason, though I can't quote chapter and verse, was the precedent set by TNA's Main Event Mafia which don't feature "the" ever
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Priceless was their constant catchphrase in their promos...They would always say "We're
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Their TitanTron video that they've had since July, maybe June? The same logo that's taken from their t-shirts that they've had since March time? The Legacy and Legacy are used interchangably. The duo were only referred to as
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