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of the topic - sections that become too big can be broken out per summary style into standalone articles, if the material is notable enough; however, if the material is not notable enough, it should be trimmed back to the essential points. The first paragraph of Production, for example, could be summarised as "In June 2011 the BBC won a "bidding war" with ITV for the show, paying £22 million for the rights to broadcast the show in the UK for two years." All of the material regarding ITV's feelings in relation to X Factor are from an unnamed source (an "insider") used in a TV gossip column in The Sun, a tabloid paper, and so can be regarded as dubious speculation, and are anyway just outside the main topic. Material on why the BBC paid so much for it, and questions surrounding that, are, however, pertinent and encyclopaedic.
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I've put in a version with colours and text. This keeps colour for those who want it, but the text satisfies those using screen readers. I like the row heights being the same and the text also means no need to look up the key to see what team someone was in, though the colour is a quick way of seeing
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Focus & Prose. This impacts on criteria 1(a) - "the prose is clear and concise" and 3(b) - "it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail". There is a lot of detail, and some of it is very questionable. The aim of the article should be to provide a clear and concise overview
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Major aspects. Much of the detail of the article appears to have been constructed as the show has developed, and has then been grammatically adjusted as the show has been broadcast. However, the broadcast detail has not increased, so we mainly get informed about the coaches being selected, and their
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Put on hold for an initial seven days to allow issues raised above to be addressed or discussed. The main work is to reduce the material so the article becomes more focused and easier to read. A lot of the gossipy quotes in each coaches section could be reduced considerably. Develop more detail on
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References. Article appears to be suitably sourced. The sources tend to be TV gossip pages, but that is the nature of the topic, and the show is new, so more robust sources are not yet available. There will be points here and there which will need either closer citing or removing, but we can deal
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I have found my way to this page in an attempt to find out more about the format of this show. The section regarding this topic is factually accurate, but poorly worded which makes it quite difficult to follow. If somebody feels confident in their abilities to fix this then I would suggest that a
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As many of you might know, Ronan Keating has just been announced as a new coach on The Voice Kids UK. His colour from when he was a coach in Australia is the same as Meghan’s current colour. Many of us believe Meghan’s colour should be changed to make way for Ronan’s colour for The Voice Kids.
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The table layout has continued to be changed, most notably team names removed and only colour used in their place, therefore I have applied pending changes protection to the page. A separate issue seems to be the listing of the coaches. I thing it looks very neat how it is and does not need to
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There is a good gathering of material from TV gossip pages about the development of the show, and the article contains a lot of words, and is well structured. Much of the material is from the development of the show, and there is less information since the show has been broadcast.
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Can someone please fix the series overview for series 2? Leah McFall/Team Will is listed as the winner, whereas in reality it was Andrea Begley/Team Danny. I'd do it myself but I have zero experience in formatting tables in Knowledge (XXG) and don't want to screw it up. Thanks.
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wiki page. I just want to re-arrange the coaches' column, so we can see which coaches sit on which chair order. the current column does not include the info(rmation) of the chairs' order. Can I do that, so that there is no more edit war??
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Hi, in the series overview table third place has it's own column when there has never been a third place as there has always been two artists eliminated at the same time during the final so we never know third place.
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Could a comment be made in the article highlighting the point that that, since the series aims to find new voices and talant, would it not be wrong for the show to attempt to rejuvenate the careers of past singers?
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and her key colour () used to match in both series. However, the American page has been reformed in terms of key colours, and now her new colour there is , which is similar to Pixie Lott's colour in the
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Could we find new referenced text under the picture of Tom Jones? Having the words musical legend in quotes makes it seem as if Knowledge (XXG) doubts it, especially as the wordage is stuck on its own.
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should be adhered to. An IP seemingly attempted (but failed) to restore colour so it was reverted to the version I made with colour and symbols. So I'm here to discuss which is better:
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Really? The 2014 results are on wikipedia, even though only the first episode has aired? Even if this is correct, I think ti should be removed, to prevent it being spoilt for anyone.
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was a much better way of conveying the exact same information without the need for colour. I have no problems with colour but I find it distracting when there is so much of it, and
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It's an unnecessary change that makes the table more cluttered and confusing. And whether you make it or someone else makes it does not matter, because that would be an issue of
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Except with the coach column widths all set to the same. The coaches themselves should not be coloured in. But it would require consensus because I would oppose this change. —
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I originally put 'Judges' field in due to the large number of shows now having them. I think you need to ask on the templates talkpage for any changed to the template now. --
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I haven't checked this page for a long while but the last time I did, it had all been changed and I changed it back. I will continue to do so every time I notice. —
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Actually the result for every series had been vandalised. It wasn't a simple revert either, as nobody seemed to have noticed the vandalism. I've fixed it now. –
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I think Gavin Rossdale's colour looks similar to Jennifer Hudson's colour on the coaches' timeline do you think we should change one of the colours
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thoughts on the future show, rather than comment on what has been broadcast. We have little information on what has happened on the show so far.
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of colour, and don't see the necessity for use of it. The way it is, currently, is a much cleaner and simpler approach to the table.
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Hi, shouldn't it be Coaches in the infobox not Judges but I don't know how to change it (I tried to change it but it didn't work) --
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at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be
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Colours and text would also be an option - I like the text instead of symbols as it makes each series row the same height.
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Most people have agreed with red ("#ff7f7f") for Anne-Marie's colour. Why do you have to come here destroy that?
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Also, the chair order isn't really important, as it doesn't affect the process or the outcome of the series. —
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Whoever keeps adding Nicole Scherzinger as a coach needs to stop because she has never been a coach on
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If you say that it could not be done because of color overuse, can I do it without color overuse??
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Hello! I would like to suggest a change. As you most likely know, JHud was also a coach in the
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Is the programme a "competition to find new singing talent" or is it an entertainment show?
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Images pass. As part of ongoing development some more images from Commons could be added.
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with that during copyediting - essentially I don't see a cause for concern in this area.
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https://web.archive.org/20121215163945/http://www.barb.co.uk:80/viewing/weekly-top-30
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Clearly someone didn't read the hidden notes or the talk page as it has been changed
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change, however, if there is consensus to change, it should only be to this format:
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No original research. Article seems to appropriately use material from sources.
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The table should be reverted back to how it was before, so I have done so.
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IMO, Unless Meghan joins The Voice Kids, the colour should stay the same.
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Please discuss here instead of reverting and counter-reverting, thanks!
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I agree, it looks good on the table. Glad we have a general consensus.
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I would like to edit the table a little bit, to make it similar to the
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Hello, I suggest turquiose for Meghan and Ronan has the orange. -
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for you, as it appears that's the stance you might be taking.
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the show since it has been broadcast. And build the lead per
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Ok, I’ll wait to get other input but that would be fine.
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how well each team did for those who can use/see colour.
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Could the contestants be in alphabetical order please?
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Unfortunately, I am in agreement that it is a bit of
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