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A sentence in the article says that Shulman was in possession of "weapons" when arrested; however, the cited source (FBI article, reference 3) does not say "weapons", but "cyanide, castor beans, and rosary peas". These are toxic substances but not necessarily weapons. In particular, you need to do
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Be sure to use the phrase "self-described" and quotation marks. Shulman was never accused, much less convicted, of being a terrorist by anyone in law-enforcement. If Knowledge were to call him a terrorist or appear to do so (tongue-in-cheek self-descriptions notwithstanding), Knowledge would be at
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Juno is correct. Deletion Review is "I feel that the article was deleted by mistake, whether through misreading, misunderstanding of Knowledge guidelines, etc. Please restore it in the form that it was in when it was deleted." This is "The circumstances have changed. I've created an updated article
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I am not a lawyer but I think there is enough information to support the inclusion of those categories. That being said, this is a highly sensitive subject and I take WP:TERRORIST very seriously. If you think that things might be on shaky ground I would advice you to file an RfC and try to get more
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I used to be friends with a lawyer who specialized in stalking cases, and I have known that making a threat to injure another person is a class D felony for a long time. If you can't find the Federal Criminal Code online, and thereby source the fact that Shulman is a Class D Felon, feel free to
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What do you mean? I don't understand your question. Shulman is guilty of the charge to which he pled guilty, and nothing else. He pled guilty to a Class D felony, so he's a class D felon. Other charges he may or may not have faced previously but not been convicted of are irrelevant to his
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Disagreement noted. Since the previous article was not Speedy Deleted, nor was the discussion particularly contentious, I didn't think that Deletion Review was called for. I think that there is enough coverage in Reliable Sources to cover an article. I see that you have nominated this one for
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Is he WIDELY described by many sources as a terrorist? It seems not. MotherJones does not make this assertion as fact but rather cites another reporter by name. Perhaps if Shulman's self-description was picked up by other secondary sources, but here I would say that MotherJones is acting as a
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The CITED source, which is the FBI article, does not use the word "deadly" (nor for that matter the word "substances"). Maybe "potentially deadly" would do, if you can find it in a reference. But "toxic" and "deadly" mean almost the same thing, so I don't really see the point.
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I have always been very reluctant to describe anyone as a terrorist and I held off on adding the category to this BLP. I lean toward doing it in this article because they guy was convicted of a terrorism-related charge, and most importantly, he described himself as a terrorist.
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Shulman's threats are too minor to make him deserving of a wikipedia article. If we created wikipedia articles about everyone who has posted or telephoned internet threats related to the abortion issue, wikipedia would run out of memory.
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Juno, "Making an interstate threat to injure another person", the crime to which Shulman pled guilty, is a Class D. felony, which can be easily sourced (Is the Federal Penal Code available online?). No, I have no conflict of interest.
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a lot of chemistry on rosary peas and castor beans to isolate and purify their respective toxins and make them into weapons. It requires a well-equipped laboratory. I am changing "weapons" to "toxic substances".
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the FBI press release. Clearly details the name of the crime to which Shulman pled guilty. Then look in the Federal Criminal Code to see that it is a Class D felony. Does this constitute original research?
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How do we know thats what he got, with the other offenses floating out there making things more sever, and with the plea deal making things softer. Its a very specific point, it should have a source.
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added that Shulman was a "Class D Felon". I'm not a lawyer, this may very well be relevant to the article but I can't find any sources for this. Can anyone verify this?
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http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2012/manhattan-man-pleads-guilty-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-illegally-threatening-pro-life-advocates
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UPDATE: I see from the record that the article has been nominated for deletion and the decision was DELETE. So why is the article still there?
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source says "deadly substances" which seems to have been picked up by other outlets. Use this source and go with that wording?
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remove that fact from the article. I thought it was one of those facts so easy to source that it effectively sources itself.
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deletion, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the community decides on that one.
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A version of this article was deleted in March of 2011, you can view that discussion
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It would be, and it seems to be research that you're doing after the fact.
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Our Sources describe them as "deadly substances". Would that work?
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GS, do you have a Conflict of Interest with this subject?
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source, and this is not meeting the threshold required by
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Because of the self-description, I think I'll include it.
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I think that it makes it a lot clearer to the reader,
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