Knowledge

Talk:Theory of relativity

Source đź“ť

348: 656: 646: 625: 278: 456: 435: 338: 311: 545: 524: 1147: 937: 741: 207: 269: 237: 555: 905: 1065: 1002: 773:
more fitting to quantum mechanics. While it is ultimately true, it belies the notion that special relativity applies to macroscopic phenomena as well. Special relativity was an attempt to answer the results of the Michelson-Morley experiment that attempted to measure how the speed of light is affected by the motion of the earth.
1111:
What is an asymptotic symmetry? What is spacetime symmetry group? I see this section as more technical than the rest of the article. I believe a brief explanation of the concepts and links to further explanations would make it better understandable for the majority of the less knowledgeable people in
772:
Although, clarified later in the article, the introductory phrase for "special relativity" says "Special relativity applies to elementary particles and their interactions, describing all their physical phenomena except gravity." It seems to me, and I'll try to find references, that the description is
983:
Then if speaking of relativity: It will be good to add a section about Galielean relativity as the statement that physic is the same in any inertial frame is from Galileo and not Einstein, Einstein added the fact the the light has constant speed... But that will be another ticket...
768:
Please replace "Special relativity applies to elementary particles and their interactions, describing all their physical phenomena except gravity." with, "Special Relativity applies to all physical phenomena in an unaccelerated reference frame in the absence of gravity."
843:
I have removed the accelerated reference frames restriction, since as we know, special relativity has no problem with them. Calculations can get hard, but SR can do it. And of course, physical phenomena happen entirely independently of frames. See for instance
884:
Calculations can get very hard indeed! I can cite a number of peer-reviewed papers that totally disagree with each other in the analysis of certain aspects of rotating reference frames, each paper stating that a previous analysis was incorrect.
1159: 153: 967:
It is wrong that Newton invented relativity! It is Galileo Galilei who invented it (And maybe that why we speak about: galilean symmetry, galilean transformation, and galilean relativity/invariance !)
1226: 985: 776:
Special relativity does not address the specifics of elementary particle interactions at all. It is a general framework that provides a relationship between space, time, motion and simultaneity.
712: 1216: 1281: 1231: 247: 147: 1246: 416: 321: 607: 198: 404: 44: 1291: 702: 1276: 597: 79: 1211: 1241: 394: 1167: 1221: 1056: 678: 347: 1286: 1266: 913: 856: 796: 506: 496: 85: 1251: 866:... and thus to disprove the erroneous statements on inapplicability of the special theory of relativity to accelerated reference frames. 1271: 1048: 194: 190: 989: 370: 1236: 669: 630: 168: 909: 792: 282: 135: 1206: 568: 529: 472: 99: 30: 1261: 104: 20: 1130: 361: 316: 74: 1256: 291: 129: 65: 820: 463: 440: 206: 185: 1009:. Galilean relativity and invariance can be attributed to Galilei alright, but, as you can verify in its article, 791:
I replaced the sentence in question with a slightly revised version of your sentence. Thanks for the suggestion!
243: 125: 976:
Reference: Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (Dialogo sopra i due massimi sistemi del mondo) 1632
217: 1052: 979:
Then it is really odd to have 3 citations for a given fact from a single author! Which appears to be wrong!
943: 781: 747: 175: 109: 297: 777: 655: 1118: 1040:
The following sentence in the introduction needs to be tweaked to, "It introduced concepts including
24: 268: 236: 1163: 1010: 161: 55: 1122: 677:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
471:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
369:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
141: 1187: 1150:
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between
661: 222: 70: 645: 624: 1175: 1126: 897:
apply to accelerating reference frames; it merely did not make the positive statement that it
863: 853: 51: 849:
100 Years of Gravity and Accelerated Frames: The Deepest Insights of Einstein and Yang-Mills
560: 219: 1076:
points to a disambiguation page, and when properly resolved, it would necessarily point to
1171: 455: 434: 1096: 1022: 875: 353: 252: 1200: 1183: 1073: 1041: 1080:
again. In that article the 4-dimensionality is adequately covered. I have done it
847: 1146: 674: 337: 310: 221: 1191: 1134: 1100: 1032: 1026: 993: 917: 879: 800: 785: 651: 550: 343: 1092: 1088: 1085: 1077: 1044: 1018: 871: 573: 544: 523: 1072:: thanks for the suggestion, but that would be problematic. The wikilink 1017:
was clearly (and "well-sourcedly") created primarily by Isaac Newton. -
971: 964:
In the introduction line 5, change "Isaac Newton" to "Galileo Galilei"
366: 1033:'Relativity introduced concepts including 4-Dimensional Spacetime' 821:"On the Relative Motion of the Earth and the Luminiferous Aether" 468: 931: 735: 262: 231: 223: 15: 1081: 160: 1227:
Knowledge level-3 vital articles in Physical sciences
901:. A quibble, I suppose. Your correction is correct. 673:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 467:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 365:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 1141:Wiki Education assignment: 4A Knowledge Assignment 33:for general discussion of the article's subject. 1217:Knowledge vital articles in Physical sciences 174: 8: 1282:B-Class Astronomy articles of Top-importance 972:https://en.wikipedia.org/Galilean_invariance 572:, which collaborates on articles related to 1232:B-Class vital articles in Physical sciences 1247:B-Class physics articles of Top-importance 1116: 928:Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2020 732:Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2019 619: 518: 429: 305: 986:2A02:1205:C6BB:8E50:440C:3BBF:CD51:B4CC 811: 621: 520: 431: 307: 266: 1084:: "It introduced concepts including 4- 7: 902: 667:This article is within the scope of 566:This article is within the scope of 461:This article is within the scope of 359:This article is within the scope of 246:on 22 September 2011. The result of 889:, the statement as I worded it did 846:Hsu, Jong-Ping; Fine, Dana (2005). 819:Michelson, Albert (November 1887). 296:It is of interest to the following 23:for discussing improvements to the 1292:High-priority mathematics articles 1155: 1151: 14: 1277:Top-importance Astronomy articles 687:Knowledge:WikiProject Mathematics 1212:Knowledge level-3 vital articles 1158:. Further details are available 1145: 1063: 1000: 935: 903: 739: 690:Template:WikiProject Mathematics 654: 644: 623: 553: 543: 522: 454: 433: 346: 336: 309: 276: 267: 235: 205: 45:Click here to start a new topic. 1242:Top-importance physics articles 707:This article has been rated as 602:This article has been rated as 582:Knowledge:WikiProject Astronomy 501:This article has been rated as 399:This article has been rated as 242:This article was nominated for 1222:B-Class level-3 vital articles 893:state that special relativity 585:Template:WikiProject Astronomy 1: 1192:22:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC) 1182:— Assignment last updated by 1135:23:42, 3 September 2022 (UTC) 1101:17:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC) 1057:16:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC) 681:and see a list of open tasks. 475:and see a list of open tasks. 414:This article is supported by 379:Knowledge:WikiProject Physics 373:and see a list of open tasks. 42:Put new text under old text. 1287:B-Class mathematics articles 1267:Top-importance Time articles 852:. World Scientific. p. 442. 382:Template:WikiProject Physics 1252:B-Class relativity articles 958:to reactivate your request. 946:has been answered. Set the 910:Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog 825:American Journal of Science 793:Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog 762:to reactivate your request. 750:has been answered. Set the 50:New to Knowledge? Welcome! 1308: 1272:B-Class Astronomy articles 608:project's importance scale 507:project's importance scale 481:Knowledge:WikiProject Time 405:project's importance scale 706: 639: 601: 538: 500: 484:Template:WikiProject Time 449: 417:the relativity task force 413: 398: 331: 304: 80:Be welcoming to newcomers 1237:B-Class physics articles 1027:11:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC) 994:09:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC) 918:15:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC) 880:20:32, 8 June 2019 (UTC) 801:19:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC) 786:18:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC) 713:project's priority scale 670:WikiProject Mathematics 1207:B-Class vital articles 864:Extract of page 442: " 75:avoid personal attacks 1262:B-Class Time articles 1162:. Student editor(s): 1112:the subject like me. 1107:Asymptotic symmetries 569:WikiProject Astronomy 283:level-3 vital article 199:Auto-archiving period 100:Neutral point of view 693:mathematics articles 105:No original research 25:Theory of relativity 1257:Relativity articles 1170:). Peer reviewers: 1015:theory of mechanics 1011:classical mechanics 362:WikiProject Physics 1160:on the course page 662:Mathematics portal 588:Astronomy articles 292:content assessment 86:dispute resolution 47: 1137: 1121:comment added by 962: 961: 858:978-981-270-340-8 766: 765: 727: 726: 723: 722: 719: 718: 618: 617: 614: 613: 517: 516: 513: 512: 428: 427: 424: 423: 261: 260: 230: 229: 66:Assume good faith 43: 1299: 1194: 1168:article contribs 1157: 1156:16 December 2023 1153: 1149: 1071: 1067: 1066: 1008: 1004: 1003: 970:!!! one source: 953: 949: 939: 938: 932: 908: 907: 906: 862: 833: 832: 816: 757: 753: 743: 742: 736: 695: 694: 691: 688: 685: 664: 659: 658: 648: 641: 640: 635: 627: 620: 590: 589: 586: 583: 580: 563: 561:Astronomy portal 558: 557: 556: 547: 540: 539: 534: 526: 519: 489: 488: 485: 482: 479: 464:WikiProject Time 458: 451: 450: 445: 437: 430: 387: 386: 385:physics articles 383: 380: 377: 356: 351: 350: 340: 333: 332: 327: 324: 313: 306: 289: 280: 279: 272: 271: 263: 239: 232: 224: 210: 209: 200: 179: 178: 164: 95:Article policies 16: 1307: 1306: 1302: 1301: 1300: 1298: 1297: 1296: 1197: 1196: 1181: 1143: 1109: 1064: 1062: 1035: 1001: 999: 951: 947: 936: 930: 904: 859: 845: 838: 837: 836: 831:(203): 333–345. 818: 817: 813: 755: 751: 740: 734: 692: 689: 686: 683: 682: 660: 653: 633: 587: 584: 581: 578: 577: 559: 554: 552: 532: 486: 483: 480: 477: 476: 443: 384: 381: 378: 375: 374: 352: 345: 325: 319: 290:on Knowledge's 287: 277: 226: 225: 220: 197: 121: 116: 115: 114: 91: 61: 12: 11: 5: 1305: 1303: 1295: 1294: 1289: 1284: 1279: 1274: 1269: 1264: 1259: 1254: 1249: 1244: 1239: 1234: 1229: 1224: 1219: 1214: 1209: 1199: 1198: 1164:Johann Estrada 1152:21 August 2023 1142: 1139: 1108: 1105: 1104: 1103: 1034: 1031: 1030: 1029: 982: 960: 959: 940: 929: 926: 925: 924: 923: 922: 921: 920: 857: 835: 834: 810: 809: 805: 804: 803: 764: 763: 744: 733: 730: 725: 724: 721: 720: 717: 716: 705: 699: 698: 696: 679:the discussion 666: 665: 649: 637: 636: 628: 616: 615: 612: 611: 604:Top-importance 600: 594: 593: 591: 565: 564: 548: 536: 535: 533:Top‑importance 527: 515: 514: 511: 510: 503:Top-importance 499: 493: 492: 490: 473:the discussion 459: 447: 446: 444:Top‑importance 438: 426: 425: 422: 421: 412: 409: 408: 401:Top-importance 397: 391: 390: 388: 371:the discussion 358: 357: 354:Physics portal 341: 329: 328: 326:Top‑importance 314: 302: 301: 295: 273: 259: 258: 248:the discussion 240: 228: 227: 218: 216: 215: 212: 211: 181: 180: 118: 117: 113: 112: 107: 102: 93: 92: 90: 89: 82: 77: 68: 62: 60: 59: 48: 39: 38: 35: 34: 28: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1304: 1293: 1290: 1288: 1285: 1283: 1280: 1278: 1275: 1273: 1270: 1268: 1265: 1263: 1260: 1258: 1255: 1253: 1250: 1248: 1245: 1243: 1240: 1238: 1235: 1233: 1230: 1228: 1225: 1223: 1220: 1218: 1215: 1213: 1210: 1208: 1205: 1204: 1202: 1195: 1193: 1189: 1185: 1179: 1177: 1173: 1169: 1165: 1161: 1148: 1140: 1138: 1136: 1132: 1128: 1124: 1120: 1113: 1106: 1102: 1098: 1094: 1090: 1087: 1083: 1079: 1075: 1074:4-dimensional 1070: 1061: 1060: 1059: 1058: 1054: 1050: 1049:73.84.223.105 1046: 1043: 1042:4-dimensional 1039: 1028: 1024: 1020: 1016: 1012: 1007: 998: 997: 996: 995: 991: 987: 980: 977: 974: 973: 968: 965: 957: 954:parameter to 945: 941: 934: 933: 927: 919: 915: 911: 900: 896: 892: 888: 883: 882: 881: 877: 873: 869: 867: 860: 855: 851: 850: 842: 841: 840: 839: 830: 826: 822: 815: 812: 808: 802: 798: 794: 790: 789: 788: 787: 783: 779: 774: 770: 761: 758:parameter to 749: 745: 738: 737: 731: 729: 714: 710: 709:High-priority 704: 701: 700: 697: 680: 676: 672: 671: 663: 657: 652: 650: 647: 643: 642: 638: 634:High‑priority 632: 629: 626: 622: 609: 605: 599: 596: 595: 592: 576:on Knowledge. 575: 571: 570: 562: 551: 549: 546: 542: 541: 537: 531: 528: 525: 521: 508: 504: 498: 495: 494: 491: 487:Time articles 474: 470: 466: 465: 460: 457: 453: 452: 448: 442: 439: 436: 432: 419: 418: 411: 410: 406: 402: 396: 393: 392: 389: 372: 368: 364: 363: 355: 349: 344: 342: 339: 335: 334: 330: 323: 318: 315: 312: 308: 303: 299: 293: 285: 284: 274: 270: 265: 264: 256: 254: 249: 245: 241: 238: 234: 233: 214: 213: 208: 204: 196: 192: 189: 187: 183: 182: 177: 173: 170: 167: 163: 159: 155: 152: 149: 146: 143: 140: 137: 134: 131: 127: 124: 123:Find sources: 120: 119: 111: 110:Verifiability 108: 106: 103: 101: 98: 97: 96: 87: 83: 81: 78: 76: 72: 69: 67: 64: 63: 57: 53: 52:Learn to edit 49: 46: 41: 40: 37: 36: 32: 26: 22: 18: 17: 1180: 1176:Patthestar12 1144: 1117:— Preceding 1114: 1110: 1068: 1037: 1036: 1014: 1005: 981: 978: 975: 969: 966: 963: 955: 944:edit request 898: 894: 890: 886: 865: 848: 828: 824: 814: 806: 778:Four current 775: 771: 767: 759: 748:edit request 728: 708: 668: 603: 567: 502: 462: 415: 400: 360: 298:WikiProjects 281: 251: 202: 184: 171: 165: 157: 150: 144: 138: 132: 122: 94: 19:This is the 1086:dimensional 1069:Partly done 887:Technically 684:Mathematics 675:mathematics 631:Mathematics 148:free images 31:not a forum 1201:Categories 1172:Spaige1500 1115:Physicist 948:|answered= 807:References 752:|answered= 322:Relativity 1089:spacetime 1078:spacetime 1045:spacetime 1038:MODERATOR 579:Astronomy 574:Astronomy 530:Astronomy 286:is rated 88:if needed 71:Be polite 21:talk page 1184:Kmijares 1131:contribs 1119:unsigned 1082:this way 1013:aka the 1006:Not done 244:deletion 203:120 days 186:Archives 56:get help 29:This is 27:article. 1123:Brunoff 711:on the 606:on the 505:on the 403:on the 376:Physics 367:Physics 317:Physics 288:B-class 154:WP refs 142:scholar 895:didn't 294:scale. 126:Google 1091:." - 952:|ans= 942:This 899:could 756:|ans= 746:This 275:This 169:JSTOR 130:books 84:Seek 1188:talk 1154:and 1127:talk 1097:talk 1093:DVdm 1053:talk 1023:talk 1019:DVdm 990:talk 914:talk 876:talk 872:DVdm 854:ISBN 797:talk 782:talk 703:High 478:Time 469:Time 441:Time 255:Keep 253:Snow 250:was 162:FENS 136:news 73:and 1047:." 950:or 891:not 754:or 598:Top 497:Top 395:Top 176:TWL 1203:: 1190:) 1178:. 1174:, 1133:) 1129:• 1099:) 1055:) 1025:) 992:) 956:no 916:) 878:) 870:- 829:34 827:. 823:. 799:) 784:) 760:no 320:: 201:: 193:, 156:) 54:; 1186:( 1166:( 1125:( 1095:( 1051:( 1021:( 988:( 912:( 874:( 868:" 861:. 795:( 780:( 715:. 610:. 509:. 420:. 407:. 300:: 257:. 195:2 191:1 188:: 172:· 166:· 158:· 151:· 145:· 139:· 133:· 128:( 58:.

Index

talk page
Theory of relativity
not a forum
Click here to start a new topic.
Learn to edit
get help
Assume good faith
Be polite
avoid personal attacks
Be welcoming to newcomers
dispute resolution
Neutral point of view
No original research
Verifiability
Google
books
news
scholar
free images
WP refs
FENS
JSTOR
TWL
Archives
1
2

Articles for deletion
deletion
the discussion

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.

↑