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very simple. I've been using it to name biographies for years. No, if there were other Tom Wolfs he undoubtedly wouldn't be a primary topic, but which other Tom Wolfs are we talking about? I can't see any. Thomas Wolf, yes. Thom Wolf, yes. Tommy Wolf, yes (although he doesn't have an article as yet).
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