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81: 53: 91: 846:. If the articles are not merged, it would be good idea to make sure all the species specific information in the genus article appears in the species article, and to make the first sentence of Trypaea about the genus instead of the species. (The species article was created by Qbugbot because there was a self-direct link in the genus article. It was in the caption of a photo, so not a big deal.) 22: 157: 67: 545:
Sakai (1999a) synonymised Trypaea and eight other genera with Callianassa, and later, Sakai (2005b) added a further two genera to this synonymy. Sakai (2011) revived the genus and synonymised five genera with Trypaea based on shared features of the male pleopods 1 and 2, which are poorly developed or
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until further research on my part. I don't trust WoRMS as the reliable authority, so I think the best thing to do here is to research every species one by one and see which ones are accepted in recent literature and which ones aren't.
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Poore GC, Dworschak PC, Robles RA, Mantelatto FL, Felder DL (January 2019). "A new classification of Callianassidae and related families (Crustacea: Decapoda: Axiidea) derived from a molecular phylogeny with morphological support".
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Oh wow... I just took a look at the WoRMS page and it is quite a hot mess. Some of the unaccepted taxa aren't explained, while others have a more recent paper to back them up. This is more controversial than I initially thought, I
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I expect the rest of the species have been displaced to other genera in previous years, judging by how they are not mentioned here. Anyways, mystery solved I think?
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So it seems that this Sakai individual made a lot of sudden taxonomic changes back and forth during the early 2000's. Right now, the revision only accepts
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as the only species, while the rest of the species are comb. nov.'d as different genera:
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Atlas of Living Australia follows OBIS & WoRMS, EOL sort of follows GBIF.
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Like Snoteleks, I'll withdraw my opposition until we find out what's going on.
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absent in all callianassids. In doing so, he included 53 species.
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merge, as the genus is not monotypic, including at least
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On another note, I seem to find no literature record of
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Here's what my rounds of the taxonomic databases shows:
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