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Why are the 'affricates' "ps," "bz," "ks," and "gz" included? I have never seen a single word in a Tekumelani language containing "bz" or "gz." I understand why "dz" is included, as Barker says that it could just as well have been ordained a separate letter, just like "ts," but nowhere does he say
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As for the phonology being 'highly unusual,' that is a subjective statement. Also, once again, the purported 'inspirations' for the sound system would still need citations to back them up. For one, the consonant inventory of Tsolyáni is closer to Arabic than to Urdu, Pashto or
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Me neither, I think those qualification are exaggerated. This was probably about formulations like "very interesting script", etc. In any case, I've modified it a bit and removed those two tags. But I still think we could use some references/external links.
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Okay, what is this "hl" consonant? According to the phonological table presented, it differs from the "ll" phoneme (which has incorrectly been listed in the voiced column), but the symbol used is not an IPA symbol, and doesn't mean anything. Is
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In the consonant table, it lists ps, bz, ks, and gz as affricates. Technically these are just consonant clusters, since the stop and fricative in an affricate need to be at the same place of articulation.
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Shouldn't we say something about the grammar? Like how there are thirty-two words for "you," or that it is agglutinating-isolating rather than fusional, like many European languages are?
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For the vowels, Barker states the single-glyph diphtongs are still pronounced as if the letters were separate, but the table shows varying sounds:
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are inspired specifically by Mayan needs some kind of citation; also, no Mayan language that I am aware of utilize any of these consonants.
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Exactly what is considered "advertising" or "non neutral" about this article? I don't quitre see what the problem may be...
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Has anyone made up SVG files for the characters, which could be put here as an example of the writing system?
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Well, it has been fixed now, but this file used to say that there was a difference between
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I think that "rr" is an allophone of "r" rather than a separate phoneme, by the way.
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Anybody have SVG examples of characters for a sample text line?
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that the above mentioned are phonemes in their own right.
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The phonology section of this article needs to be fixed:
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First off, the statement that the inclusion of "hl"
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is common in all of the Americas, as far as I know.
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