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film analysis page. Perhaps a wikifilm is in order, but this isn't it. Further, as other users have pointed out, other film pages do not have extensive analyses of this sort. Normalization is in order. I agree with Doctor Sunshine that analysis is an interesting feature to keep on wikipedia, but it should be a brief (one-two paragraph) summary of major critical views on the film, not an exposition of one critic's view. - Unsigned, 30 January 2007
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The problem with the analysis is that it is a one-sided perspective of Dr. Millicent Marcus, who, however good an Italianist, is not intimately connected with the film. This page is about the film, not Marcus. A link to Marcus' work would suffice. Knowledge (XXG) is, after all, an encyclopedia, not a
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Some time ago I wasted my time correcting what one or more imbecils did in some sort of essey about a movie they obviously did not see. Now in the middle of that some other moron comes in and adds "this section does not cite..." bla bla. Well.. before my edits there was no citation either, yet this
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Some parts here are terribly written: "There is a dialectic of generational compositions which in the opening film of neorealism - commonly accepted as Rome, Open City - there is a parade of boys marching on Rome to reclaim the future -perhaps itself a reference to Mussolini's march on Rome" What
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This article doesn't really read like a film page...nothing about the film, critical response, commercial success/failure, awards, influence or even the plot. There's just a so-called synopsis, which isn't really anything of the sort. It's quite good really, at least if it isn't copyvio, but
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By the way, at least the first three paragraphs of the analysis section are plagiarized, as can be found through a quick google search of its contents. I cannot confirm the rest of it is, but the analysis section will basically need to be dropped.
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I don't think this is a copyvio - it looks to me like someone's film class essay pasted in here. It appeared all at once from an anonymous IP. I think we should just start over. Save a few useful bits, but basically start over. -
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moron had no feeling to add that. So? Does he need something to justify it? Obviously not. The quick answer is you get what you paid for - next time get a book on a certain topic as Knowledge (XXG) is surely not a match.
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335:. A perfectly good source, but I agree with Anon above that it's wrong to rehash a critic's entire argument ad nauseum. Anyone have a good idea about exactly how to summarise the analysis? 160: 63: 578: 574: 560: 204:
does that even mean? Are they saying many neo-realist films open with boys marching on Rome? People need to stop posting parts of their badly written school essays.
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Having an analysis is a good thing. More film articles could use them. Rather than deleting information why not just add a proper synopsis or plot outline.
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I've added a simple plot synopsis after seeing the film, it's likely not great but this article needed one, and I wanted to make sure it got one. -
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This reads like a review in an arts magazine. Possible copyright violation?
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The article simply cites 'Marcus 1986', but I presume it's referring to
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Umberto D is a masterpiece. What the F*** is this article even about?
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