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958:"Ununennium and unbinilium (elements 119 and 120) are the lightest elements that have not yet been synthesized, and attempts to synthesize them would push the limits of current technology, due to the decreasing cross sections of the production reactions and their probably short half-lives, expected to be on the order of microseconds." 1) Break it into multiple sentences, please. 2) Lightest elements that have not yet been synthesized made me question whether something heavier had actually been synthesized... but that doesn't appear to have been the case. Is there a better way to phrase that to not give that impression? 997:"The metal–metal bond lengths in these M2 molecules increase down the group from Ca2 to Ubn2, while the metal–metal bond-dissociation energies generally increase from Ca2 to Ba2 and then drop precipitously to Ubn2, which should be the most weakly bound of all the group 2 homodiatomic molecules: this is because of the increasing participation of the p3/2 and d electrons as well as the relativistically contracted s orbital." That could stand to be broken into two sentences. It's already technically complex, but the colon provides an adequate spot to break as well. 31: 854: 828: 794: 741: 717: 695: 673: 636: 610: 580: 473: 558: 499: 355: 320: 321:
https://books.google.com.ru/books?id=ei-_BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA204&lpg=PA204&dq=elements+119+and+120&source=bl&ots=nEKVFDCQd0&sig=r6PoC57zQP5sM_6IR_zKSuIf2Yc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_opaoxbPNAhVCqo8KHVn1CA44ChDoAQggMAE#v=onepage&q=elements%20119%20and%20120&f=false
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Is pb in "No atoms were detected providing a limit of 1.6 pb" picobarn? Might want to link that one too, even though fb is linked earlier, the relationship of the two measurement elements is not immediately obvious to people who don't usually work with that range of SI prefixes. :-)
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These things really do get dated quickly, especially when the element is not known yet...maybe indeed I should wait, and finish the last known transactinides again with their juicy history, rather then immerse myself in a mess that is not even sorted out yet like it was for 113–118!
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Overall, the text seems in decent shape, but quite dense. I'm sure this is not an article 8th graders are going to want to peruse, but it could probably stand to be a little less dense overall. Not a fail criteria, just a recommendation.
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Looking good with the improvements so far. Can someone go through and clean up the references? I think that's the outstanding thing, although I will want to systematically go through the lead again before signing off on it.
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The first paragraph in "History" seems to have nothing to do with Unbinilium specifically. I suspect the paragraph ordering should be rearranged to actually talk about the element in question in the first non-lead paragraph.
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Does it bother anyone else that the sourcing for the part of the article on the compound nucleus is completely invalid? The source that links to shows up with an error message saying 'This page does not exist'.
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Hmm, this is slightly problematic. You see, under the latest predictions (Zagrebaev 2013) on where the island is, E120 is not actually in it. It should be instead around the beta-stability line at
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The reason this is in front is because it is impossible to use the term "cold fusion" in its sober sense without it being mistaken for the crank sense. Added the phrase "Superheavy elements,
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I would expect there to be something about the island of stability in the lead. The lead as a whole seems short, but I haven't gone through and digested the whole article yet.
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obvious improvements since it is such an arcane and technical topic, but it could certainly benefit from attention to sentence length and complexities.
1176:. The IUPAC recommended name unbinilium is appropriate and consistent with titles of other elements that currently only have placeholder names. -- 888:= 112 ± 3 (centred at around Cn and Cn). So E120 ends up being at the "outer edge", beyond which there is no way to continue without new technology. 512: 573:
The formatting of some of the references, of which there certainly appear to be an appropriate amount and distribution, could stand some work.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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https://agenda.infn.it/getFile.py/access?contribId=298&sessionId=7&resId=0&materialId=slides&confId=5235
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Would be nice to add more, but since no one's actually made it yet, there's really nothing less "science-y" to depict.
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are also relevant here, as E119 and E120 are the last two elements we can feasibly produce with current technology.
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how would I quickly create an article on this topic? i see it's discussed already in he article nuclear reaction?
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I agree. Also, the stub was placed in the wrong spot on the page. I digress. I'm going to remove the
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Yes, mentioning the island and explaining that the element is probably not within it is fine.
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The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Combined with RM on "ununennium"
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http://cyclotron.tamu.edu/she2015/assets/pdfs/presentations/Morita_SHE_2015_TAMU.pdf
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jcp/136/13/10.1063/1.3699232
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http://kft.umcs.lublin.pl/wfj/archive/2009/transp/2009/Hofmann.pdf
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0009261412013048
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http://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.87.022502
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http://journals.aps.org/prc/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevC.87.034616
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http://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.78.054501
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How is it a stub? There's not much else to say on the subject.
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Lead needs to do a better job of summarizing whole article.
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http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11433-011-4436-4
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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Talk:Unbinilium
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thiophile
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CecilWard
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16:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Jacob S-589
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http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jcp/136/13/10.1063/1.3699232
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04:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Ununennium
http://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_cur/store/vol42/pdf/v42p1871.pdf
http://journals.aps.org/prc/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevC.79.024603
http://journals.aps.org/prc/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevC.80.054608
http://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.78.054501

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