21:
240:
TuscanMeadow I couldn't agree more and our thanks for your intervention. When DreamGuy launched his attack, I though what's the hidden agenda here? We're a small publishing company, just getting going, why attack us? But maybe that's the point, he thinks we're an easy target for his bile, his need to
111:
Galley Proofs and
Uncorrected Proofs are quite different - that is simply a fact, so the meaning for the page stands unchallenged by anything anyone has so far written. Personal biases such as Dreamguy is exhibiting, with no factual bases in any of his allegations, I might add, have no place in Wiki.
95:
You do not need an AFD to redirect, especially when another article on the *exact same topic* exists. Furthermore, the edits were clearly made to spam a nonnotable book by the same name. If the article is not redirected then the blatant COI/spam material needs to be deleted. It gets tiring seeing the
281:
Where's your evidence DG? You really are one little tiresome sort (hence the silly pseud I guess) ..is this where your shrink sends you to get rid of your problems? Get a life and maybe some qualifications and then a broader mind, if that were possible..Do you really think we care if U.P stays on
45:
Well, if you ignore the votes to merge and count them as keeps, sure, then it was a keep, but most people clearly said the article doesn't belong as its own article one way or another. Therefore I have merged all the reliable info (i.e. none)/redirected per the clear consensus of that discussion.
221:
Sorry to see that an entry I started with good intentions seems to have degenerated a little bit, and unnecessarily so. Reading some comments, I am not sure it is still about the entry's topic itself or about proving a point and asserting egos. Anyway, my two cents: I think uncorrected proof and
334:
My comment is in response to the removal of the PROD tag. It seems that various people have an impression of what 'uncorrected proof' means, but they don't agree with one another. I've just marked the reference link to 'myfirsteditions.com' as a dead link, since the site is not functional. This
166:
So then if Wiki is not a open place for discussion - part of the definition of a democracy - then it is run by cultural policemen like you, who like corrupt cops in many areas, enjoy their tiny provinces of power. But to survive you should at least know the subjects you pretend to control.
222:
galley proof should not be merged, they are not the same thing - actually I secretely wish my entry was somehow reinstated since I thought it was interesting to link the concept of UP to a book that happened to have that title. But on to my second cent:
241:
demonstrate power. He wouldn't dare take on
Penguin or someone like them in the same way. So if everyone is in agreement I will replace the text on Louisiana's novel, but I won't be a fascist about it - I believe in true consensus.
312:
96:
same couple people going around opposing every single prod/AFD/redirect/merge in such blatantly obvious cases, but if you want to force the red tape we can do an AFD as well.
315:, the accounts that were here trying to add spam for the book have now been blocked. Hopefully that'll permanently take care of the problem we've been having on this article.
31:
282:
some Wiki page or not..I couldn't care less..what I do care about is that
Knowledge facilitates behaviour such as yours. But I guess Hitler had to start somewhere too.
298:
210:
183:
131:
248:
343:
that it is a 'standard publishing industry term' is unsupported. There is no good evidence distinguishing uncorrected proofs from
194:
and then read the whole page you direct me to..Resist the temptation to change
Knowledge just to prove a point.
27:
294:
206:
179:
127:
85:
252:
113:
231:
290:
202:
175:
123:
360:
286:
244:
198:
171:
119:
20:
144:
81:
320:
271:
156:
101:
51:
227:
223:
356:
347:. The present article claims, without evidence, that galley proofs are unpaged, while our
316:
267:
152:
148:
97:
74:
47:
348:
344:
77:
so that the process can be visibly fair, rather than edit-warring with a redirect.
364:
324:
275:
266:
We have a pretty clear consensus against using accounts to spam
Knowledge.
256:
235:
214:
187:
160:
135:
105:
89:
55:
114:
http://elephantearspress.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/wiki-is-not-democratic/
73:
Those who wish to delete it (for reasons I do understand) should use
70:
The right place to discuss this article is here, on its own talk page
330:
Evidence that this is a well-understood term with a common meaning?
335:
leaves us with just one link, to the privately-operated web site
15:
313:
Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/TuscanMeadow/Archive
340:
336:
339:. Does anyone want to research this further? If not
355:to mean something different, why are we here?
8:
147:. There is a long list of other things that
351:does not say so. If every publisher uses
143:Well, you are right on one thing anyway:
262:Adding my signature - ElephantEars2008
30:on 13 April 2009 (UTC). The result of
224:where hopefully this won't be heading
7:
14:
19:
307:Sockpuppets/meatpuppets blocked
26:This article was nominated for
1:
145:Knowledge is NOT a democracy
380:
215:18:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
188:18:41, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
161:18:34, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
136:18:15, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
106:17:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
90:16:54, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
56:20:36, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
365:20:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
325:21:42, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
276:15:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
257:07:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
236:23:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
151:that you should read.
349:article on that topic
337:http://www.ioba.org
62:Please discuss here
353:uncorrected proof
303:
289:comment added by
247:comment added by
218:
201:comment added by
191:
174:comment added by
139:
122:comment added by
42:
41:
371:
302:
291:ElephantEars2008
283:
259:
217:
203:ElephantEars2008
195:
190:
176:ElephantEars2008
168:
149:Knowledge is not
138:
124:ElephantEars2008
116:
23:
16:
379:
378:
374:
373:
372:
370:
369:
368:
332:
309:
284:
242:
196:
169:
117:
64:
12:
11:
5:
377:
375:
331:
328:
308:
305:
279:
278:
164:
163:
109:
108:
82:SamuelTheGhost
79:
78:
71:
63:
60:
59:
58:
40:
39:
32:the discussion
24:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
376:
367:
366:
362:
358:
354:
350:
346:
345:Galley proofs
342:
338:
329:
327:
326:
322:
318:
314:
306:
304:
300:
296:
292:
288:
277:
273:
269:
265:
264:
263:
260:
258:
254:
250:
249:78.151.150.34
246:
238:
237:
233:
229:
225:
219:
216:
212:
208:
204:
200:
192:
189:
185:
181:
177:
173:
162:
158:
154:
150:
146:
142:
141:
140:
137:
133:
129:
125:
121:
115:
107:
103:
99:
94:
93:
92:
91:
87:
83:
76:
72:
69:
68:
67:
61:
57:
53:
49:
44:
43:
37:
33:
29:
25:
22:
18:
17:
352:
333:
310:
280:
261:
239:
228:TuscanMeadow
220:
193:
165:
110:
80:
66:Two things:
65:
35:
285:—Preceding
243:—Preceding
197:—Preceding
170:—Preceding
118:—Preceding
357:EdJohnston
341:the claim
317:DreamGuy
299:contribs
287:unsigned
268:DreamGuy
245:unsigned
211:contribs
199:unsigned
184:contribs
172:unsigned
153:DreamGuy
132:contribs
120:unsigned
98:DreamGuy
48:DreamGuy
28:deletion
75:WP:AfD
361:talk
321:talk
311:Per
295:talk
272:talk
253:talk
232:talk
226::-)
207:talk
180:talk
157:talk
128:talk
112:See
102:talk
86:talk
52:talk
36:keep
34:was
363:)
323:)
301:)
297:•
274:)
255:)
234:)
213:)
209:•
186:)
182:•
159:)
134:)
130:•
104:)
88:)
54:)
359:(
319:(
293:(
270:(
251:(
230:(
205:(
178:(
155:(
126:(
100:(
84:(
50:(
38:.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.