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something you need to know straight off at the top of the article and it doesn't make sense to anyone who doesn't know the band. The "Background" section is full of stubby paragraphs; consider forking some of it off to a 'music' or 'musical style' (or whatever) section. It's also not great to have the sound clips like that in the middle of the text; see for example
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for how to include music samples without breaking up the text. You should probably mention the chart stuff again in the 'reception' section, or else include a section on the chart history (as per nearly every other album GA). Personally I'd put it on hold for the time being and allow
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For a labour of love, I've learned a lot about this album that I really should have known before. However, I hope it's now ready for approval. The lead, I think now gives an overview of the album's history and importance, both of which are addressed in detail in the body. There is little about the
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It's not clear what is the focus of the section called "Music". And following it is a section called "Background" which is mainly about a car crash, and then has a statement that "Dave
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Hola. Personally I think it could do with a copyedit as some parts are unclear and/or confusing. For example the second sentence in the lead - I thought at first that by 'label' you meant 'record label', and then I realised it was a nickname, and then I was like "uh.." because well, it's not
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Thanks for the nudge. Yes, I agree it is better to improve an article than delist it. I had intended to do some more work on this, but got distracted. Let's put a 14 day target on this to allow improvements to be made, and assess the situation again on Feb 10th.
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has been firmly enough linked to this article. If this is the performance of Si Tu Dois Partir on TOTP, that should be made clear. Also, the appropriate source for the image should be stated.
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