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for example). I also rewrote much of the history/historiography section, as much of it existed only to argue that the
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last-mentioned school, the attributes of the uncreated are completely incomparable to the attributes of any created being; it's hardly OR to state that divinity rests on other considerations (it is OR to point to the will as an explanation, or to suggest checking the person/presence references in
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I had. I made comments there at your direction. The discussion reached no consesus and has been "dead" for several weeks. I will attempt to discuss the issue there, but if a consensus cannot be reached, we should remove the tags from both articles. However, another tag might be appropriate at that
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I was raised UU and I believe the church has regard for J.C. In fact, one of the basic tenants of UU is to have regard for all beliefs (though, I admit many UUs have problems living up to that ideal). Perhaps the key distinction is the "supreme" in supreme respect... if that is the case, perhaps
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Well, this is a moot point since the text in question has been edited out--but just in case someone is tempted to revert to an earlier version, here are my thoughts. I disagree that it describes the distinction very well. I assume there is a distinction, but the text seems overly coy and a bit
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Unitiarian Christians are more fully focused on Jesus Christ, or something... whatever the case, simply state it rather than use vague & unmeasurable terms such as "common regard" and "supreme respect."
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Arianism includes any belief in a preexistent Christ, as long as the preexistent Christ is said not to be God himself. If by "divine" one means God, then Jesus is not divine. If by "divine" one means a supernatural being with similar attributes as God, then one could call him "divine."
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Arianism and the other fourth-century theologies mentioned in the
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