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of the union) was colonized by the English, the west and Florida was Spanish and the Mid-west was largely French. The other thing is that most Americans are the descendents of immigrants who came in the 19th and early 20th century. These immigrants came mostly from Germany and Ireland. So, unlike other former British colonies such as Australia, most Americans are the descendents of immigrants who were not present during the time of British rule on the east coast. In other words, most Americans are the descendants of non-English immigrants who came to the US in the 19 and 20th centuries. Also, many Germans, Dutch and French tweaked their names in the 19th century to sound more English. For example, Eisenhower, used to be Eisenhauer; Hoover used to be Huber. Many German and other Germanic names such as Heinz, Beck, Rosenthal are also often mistaken to be Anglo. And of course Irish and Scottish names such as McDonalds are very, very common in the US. So if you factor in the massive immigration numbers of the 19th and 20th century, when only few immigrants arrived from England, and the tweaking of names, the demographics shouldn't be so suprising after all ;-) Regards,

137:"sea to shining sea" makes a kind of intuitive sense; why and how a formerly sovereign island nation in the middle of the ocean is part of the United States is less obvious. I made this point once among some fellow history teachers and it was suggested that I was making politics of geography. My response then, which seems relevant here, is that geography is political (for example: try to explain Europe's status as a continent using purely geological arguments. Not easy to do.) I think it's worth it to suffer the awkwardness of any effort to describe the location of the United States, simply because it is inaccurate to do anything else. One could simply use the existing language and add something like "xxxxx; the United States also includes the states of Hawaii, a mid-Pacific archipelago, and Alaska, located in the northwest corner of North America. In addition, the United States claims sovereignty over the island of Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, parts of Micronesia" and whatever else I'm leaving out. It's important. 963:. If a country is the rainiest in the world, or has the smallest land area, or has one of the longest continuous monarchical bloodlines, or plays a leading role in world affairs, then this is a remarkable trait worth mentioning. A country's being the subject of controversy is unremarkable. A country's geographic location is unique; an exceptionally large or small population or geographic area is worth mentioning; its basic form of government is worth mentioning. Undescribed controversy, which is an obvious general fact true of every country, is unremarkable for an intro. The statement about Gaddafi is specific and tells something unique about the country; no other country is headed by Gaddafi, who has his own remarkable relationship with the rest of the world. (And we are all free to edit the Lybia article too.) — 1379:(I have traced many lines of my ancestry. All but one of those lines along which I've been able to go back several hundred years has been of people living in the U.S. and Canada since the 17th and 18th centuries. One line I can trace to the 14th century. But, even with the dozens of lines I've traced to some degree or another, I still have way more than half of them untraceable (usually because the mother's side was not as well recorded). (Go back just eight generations and, unless there was some intermarriage, you should have 510 distinct direct ascendants to keep track of.) What I do know is my ancestry came from England, Scotland, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Canada, the Cayman Islands, the U.S., and probably some other places—and it's hard to put all that in the little box on the census form.) 3368:

simply becaused more - or Burger King to BK? Every page should have it's proper, official name. There's a reason it was give the name in the first place. There is more than one United States, but only one United States of America. Look in almost any atlas, and you won't find America listed under "United States", but under "United States of America". I vote to change to United States of America, because that's the name the founders of the country named it. It they actually wanted the country to be called an abbreviated name, don't you think they would have? I do, and I strongly urge all of you that oppose the change to reconsider your vote, and support the move.

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country on earth (due to the reason mentioned above) thus the chances for controversy increase. Of course there are some small countries who cause(d) a lot of controversy, (e.g. Serbia, Israel, etc...). Nonetheless you'd expect America's foreign policy to be more controversial than that of nearrly any other country on earth as it is more extensive with the US due to its position in the world being involved in more international conflicts that any other country. I agree with Lethe, stating that US policies are controverial is true, but not remarkable enough to make it into this article. Regards,

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suffrage" then. You can't have slavery and universal suffrage at the same time. Of course, by 18th century standards (A time when people not of European descend weren't considered people-e.g. 5/3 compromise-Jefferson's race theories) the US was a liberal democracy and did have universal suffrage. By 18th century standards, Jefferson was a humanitarian. You're right you can't view policy dating from 1780 with 2006 standards. Nonetheless the current sentence is misleading as a reader might very likely fail to consider the historical implactions on the statement. Now, I think the sentence by

2296:- (the latter is in suburban Chicago, Naperville is America's 2nd most livable city; the former is in a neighborhood I don't dare drive through after dusk). Thus the idea of applying a national threshold itself is somewhat of a doubtful venture. Yet it is the most objective source we have on poverty. Some say poverty is overstated, some say its understated, depending on location and exact circumstance, both may be right or wrong. That's why we have a contoversy section in the Poverty article. For the figure let's just mimic the government as that is the current authority on the issue. 1806:"suffrage" linkage that is misleading and it clearly judges "....policy dating from 1780 with 2006 standards" which you seem to agree is bad practice in writing history. At its founding, the United States was unique among nations as a liberal democracy. Why not leave it at that in the intro, and deal with the details of suffrage in the body of the article. No one is going to be confused by a statment that declares that the U.S. by forming a government under the principles outlined in U.S. Constitution established the world's first liberal democracy. 3337: 2873:

area later part of the 13 original colonies was colonised not by the English but also by the Dutch and Swedish. The Dutch and Swedish colonies are significant enough to justify one humble sentence in the intro. Mentioning only English colonisation is wrong and misleading. We either have the choice of mentioning the "Big three:" England, Spain and France; or we can concentrate on the area that later became the 13 colonies-obligating us to mention the Dutch and Swedish colonisation. Regards,

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live if Cali than it does in Arkansas. In my neck of the woods the income needed for a middle class lifestyle, that is the ownership of a 3 bedroom house and two cars is about $ 125,000- here where a "house" or "cottage" in the ghetto runs for $ 380k, people far above the poverty level life in a state of poverty. In Arkansas a household making $ 40k will likely be able to have the lifestyle of a household making $ 100k in costal California. Just look at these two homes:

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US has incoperated a broader definition of civil rights and made them a reality for more and more Americans. People in the US today enjoy far greater liberty and freedom than in say 1930 or even 1960. Thus it is fair to state that the "liberal democratic nature of the government has grown." Rather small recent set-backs in federal policy are not sufficient cause to change this particular sentence. Best Regards,

205: 1991:"On 4 July 1776, at war with Britain over fair governance of the United Empire, thirteen of these colonies declared their independence. In 1783, the war ended in British acceptance of the new nation. Since then, the country has more than quadrupled in size: it now consists of 50 states and one federal district; it also has numerous overseas territories. 1538:

sentence is redundand as the above statement already makes a statement over the US being very powerful. My problem with the tag is that it may make readers doubtful over whether or not they can trust the article as a whole; thus my fear is that this tag would compromise the integrity of this article. Thanks for clearing things up though. Best Regards,

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point to another specific point is 'worse' than one that allows a direct, or nearly direct, connection between the same two points. Maybe the article should be more specific about the way in which the U.S. freight train network is among the world's best. (I would have to do my own research before feeling comfortable about making the edit myself.) —

641:, getting rid of this special section for Amerindians and instead integrating such data into the appropriate sections of the rest of the article. This section's presence has the effect of either elevating Amerindians to some special, superior status (no other group gets its own section all to itself in the article) or shoving them into a Knowledge 3772:: "Most scientists think the first Indians came to the Americas from Asia at least 15,000 years ago. Other scientists believe the Indians may have arrived as early as 35,000 years ago. By 12,500 years ago, Indians had spread throughout the New World and were living from the Arctic in the north all the way to southern South America." 2660:

the US is going to be critised. Besdies, criticisms for the US are feature in the numerous ...in the United States articles. Also, consider that this article is supposed to give an overview of a very complex subject and is very long as is. There is really quite little to justify a seperate section just for criticisms. Best Regards,

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acknowledges there was some degree of liberal democracy at the start, but that it has developed. We could remove the entire 2 sentences - but then we would lose the 3 points I mentioned above - started in a year, continuity despite new Constitution, some mention of democracy (a term that keeps getting deleted from the article)--

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temparatures are routinely below 0 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter, while one can wear short-sleeved shirts all year long in souther California or Hawaii. A country the size of that of the US has many different climate zones and a description of the national climate is therefore going to be correpondingly complex. Regards,

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the west). As well, it's not really the proper size to be useful from a historical perspective. It covers a huge number of regions and climate areas, so it's not useful to discuss early development of civilizations, and if you want to do an overview of the regions, it would be more appropriate to do that in something like

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English. As I have saind, if we are indeed mentioning the history of the entire continental US we need to mention France and Spain. (Perhpas then we can leave out Sweden and the Neatherlands, as their colonies were very small) I have made some changes to the section to reduce the amount of detail. Regards,

1474:),... . Wich ethic tribes from the former Soviet-Union immigrated to U.S.? In 2004 a lot of Turkish families from Caucasia went abroad (to the U.S.), because they were persecuted by Russian population. Are this groups assimilate in the society? Simon. PS: Please correct this text if something is wrong!) 2919:

flies a Spanish Flag in front of city hall) In other words, only naming the British is a quite New-England centric approach. It fails to mention the history of California, the entire South-West, Delware, New Jersey, the Mid-West, as well as that of Florida. Thus I beleive that we cannot just name the

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No, I got your point. I understand that by 18 century standards the US was a liberal democracy and that truly unviersal suffrage does not neccesarily equal a liberal domcracy when discussing history. My problem is that I do fear that people will mis-read and mis-judge the statment. I think we need to

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Well the US did not have "Universal suffrage" until after the civil war for sure. It had suffrage for property owning European-American males. The fact that the constitution was originally built in such a way as to make slavery part of this country, contradicts any statement that there was "Universal

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mmmh... true, for a long time the freedoms outlined in the constitution only applied to European-American males, later to women were "included" and only in 1965 did all African Americans enjoy the same rights as European-Americans. Perhaps the sentence should read: "The United States has maintained a

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I see that someone added the "Weasel word" tag. Could the reasons for adding this tag be discolsed in further detail please, as I am doubtful over whehter this article really uses any more "Weasel words" than an article should. Please also consider that some things are of vague and sbujective nature,

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Mmmh, so you're saying that you would expect the largest ancestry to be English becuase the US used to be an English colony. Makes sense, but there are factors that you must consider. The present day US was actually colonized by three Eruopean colonial powers. Only the east coast (the first 13 states

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Yes, if you combine Irish, English and Scottish you would have about 30 to 40 percent being from the UK. But it is important to note that these are ethnicities in their own right and are commonly not combined. For example, the Irish faced severe discrimination upon their arrival in the United States;

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Works for me - My initial concern was that they were grouped because of the idea that Iraq was involved in 9/11. It is now presented much better so they are two events just under the same heading for grouping purposes. I should have read more of the article before jumping in and adding such content.

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I did not say that your wording said anything regardinf Universal suffrage-that was in repsonse to Paul's post. I am assuming good faith on your part and we seem to agree that "the term democratic no longer means what it meant then," but instead history needs to be viewed in the appropriate context.

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does not necessarily include universal suffrage, and no one in 1780 would have thought so. It is poor history to hold the political events of the 1780's up to a mirror of 2000 standards. If you are intent on changing the existing wording which seems perfectly reasonable and accurate just the way it

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The degree of assimilation depends on each individual. Also, to what part of the American culture should they have assimilated?- it's a difficult question. I would say there are probably several "ethnic" communities similar to Brighton Beach, New York in the US where these people have retained their

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But the things to mention about a county in the opening of an encyclopedia article about that country are the things that make the country somehow special. That the United States' role in the world is controversial is not something special about the country. There is controversy surrounding the role

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The problem is that the USA is so large and weather fronts aren't spaced wide enough to cover the whole country, so at any one time you won't see a single similar pattern over the U.S., unless it's like some continental size heat wave like we had this summer. (And even then, the panhandle was cooler

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In my opinion, United States of America should talk just about the political entity. For one thing, the geographical region of the US doesn't really make any sense except as a political entity (the Canadian border is mostly just a line drawn on the map, as are many of the state lines, especially in

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This statement from the article is bullshit. US railways are not electrocuted, they all ran on diesel and that is both technically backwards and eco-politically incorrect. If you consider that even the broke and humiliated ex-soviet russians managed to finish catenarizing their entire Trans-Siberian

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For three reasons: # On other languages such as German the article is titled "United States" as well. # People are more likely to type "United States" into their search engine than "United States of America." # The move would just needlessly confuse people. BTW: We had this discussion before-its in

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Ture the exectuive branch has gained power and is IMHO too powerful. Nonetheless the US is till a liberal democraticy which in recent years has grown. For example in 1960 there was still a massive lack of civil rights in the South and as late as 1933 there were still publi lynchings. Since then the

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We have actually discussed this before. Doing so, would be kind of strange. There is criticism for the actions of every organization, including countries. The larger the organization, the more controversial and there more ciritisism. It goes without saying that a country as large and unfluential as

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Or how, Loyalist soldiers and civilians were evacuated from New York and resettled in other colonies of the British Empire, most notably in the future Canada: the two colonies of Nova Scotia (including modern-day New Brunswick, receiving in total some 32,000 Loyalist refugees) and Quebec (including

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As I see it, the argument over your inclusion should not be about whether it is POV (as I see it, the controversy about the U.S. role in the world is a plain fact): the (or my) problem with your inclusion is that it's stating the obvious and stating something that's true about every country, rather

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I agree with David, plus, the geography section in general is far too long. The terrain sub-section is longer than most geography and climate articles on other countries, and the whole section is longer than the geography articles of Australia and Canada combined; and both those countries have very

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Since Fourtildas keeps bringing this up on the NPOV page, I'll chip in. While I would normally agree with the principle that a country article should cover the history of that region, what Flooey says here is perfectly accurate when he states it would not be useful to do so in this case. America is

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The "Indigenous peoples" section should be entitled "Indigenous History" since that is the only subject matter of the section - it doesn't talk about Aboriginal government, culture, language, military, economy, religion, demographics (Hawaiians, Iroquois, ...). Also, the "History" section should be

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United States is one of few places in the world where railway companies are making profits. Although intercity passenger train service is a dead issue in the US, freight train service is thriving. Conrail and Amtrak are notorious for their unreliable services, but freight companies like BNSF and SP

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Well America's rail network certainly isn't technologically as advanced as that of Europe or Japa-it was neglected to long. It does however move goods efficiently from A to B, which is its purpose afterall; thus perhpas "best" should be replaced with efficiency or "ability to connect many different

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Not quite, they did settle key areas of the 13 colonies and they did lead. True Spain was the first but none of the areas in the 13 colonies was ever under Spanish control. Also, in the beginning Dutch and Swedish settlements rivaled those of England. Many people often forget that key parts of the

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Well, the only objective guideline we have is the federal threshold. Of course there are numerous flaws, but all other definitions are less authorative and highly subjective. For example, the treshold for what is poos certainly shouldn't be the same for Arkansas and California. I takes far more to

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I believe you may have missed the point I was making, that "liberal democracy" does not necessarily imply universal suffrage; indeed, even today we don't allow people under 18 or convicted felons to vote. The suggested language implies a direct linkage between extending suffrage and the amount of

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Brendel's first response is a fine explanation of the issue, although the pedant in me must point out that McDonald is a Scottish name, not Irish, and that the 19th century immigrants from Ireland were also immigrants from the UK, the former being part of the latter at the time, so there were more

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Well that's because the US is the largest industrialized country with 300 million people; which has resulted in it being the only supepower country. You would expect the actions of the world's largest developed country to be more controversial as that of the Ukraine. The US is the most influencial

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entitled "White History" because that is its subject matter. Also, these two sections should be adjacent and in a logical order (chronological). And it should be mentioned what happened to 97% of the Aboriginals during the White colonization. (Some might prefer the terms "European" or "Caucasian")

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And I'll ask another question (not in response to the previous two). Does the recent addition about Amerindian cultivation of goosefoot, squash, and sunflower really belong in this article? Agricultural developments interesting me, but I'm not sure they're among the highlights that this article is

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Sorry, I looked but didn't see a reference to this. I guess my thought is that it would indeed be awkward or confusing as you put it, but that at the very root of what's confusing about it is the awkwardness of the *fact* of Hawaii and Alaska's presence in the Union in the first place. The idea of

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I hate double standards. Some pages have their official name and some have shortened ones. So people type United States more than United States of America - cool. But does that really justify abbreviating the page? If so, than should everyone change Star Wars: Knights of the old Republic to KotOR

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I know what I say above is kind ot OR (I haven't published anything that backs up my statement above). I'm sure, however, if I wasn't so busy I could find quite a few published articles of authority to include as references. But for know I am saying we need to just stick with what the Federal Gov

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suffrage - but yes, as suffrage grew, so too does our estimation of the US as being democratic. Nobody THEN would have called it democratic. There is no revisionism here & no attempt to hold them to contemporary standards. Neither should there be an attempt to deny that the term democratic no

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Oh, sorry. I write my posts very quickly-I meant England instead of UK in the second quote. I am also sorry for confusing Irish and Scottish names, both are common in the US and meant to say "Irish and Scottish names such as McDonalds." Thank you for poniting out what I meant ;-) (I have made the

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But the role and influcence of the US and its huge amount of controversiality and criticism it's getting is far more than any other country. You could find newspapers articles criticising US foreign policy in every country, while, for example, the Ukrainian interactions with the world is not much

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Great care should be taken when using either set of figures to compare the wealth of two countries. Often people who wish to promote or denigrate a country will use the figure that suits their case best and ignore the other one, which may be substantially different, but a valid comparison of two

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The Biminis in the Bahamas are 50 miles from Florida. The article intro states there is a sea border between the US & the Bahamas - which would not be true if international waters were in between. Google Earth does not show an international border there. Even if 25 miles were the territorial

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It is claimed, "Since its establishment, the liberal democratic nature of the government has grown." There may have been a time when this was true, but it isn't any more as the United States is now a country where the President can have anyone he wants tortured on a whim. The article needs to be

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Couldn't the history section use at least some form of subsections? I realize we want to keep the article trim with the split-off to the main history, but it jumps over thousands of years of Native presence in a couple sentences (one I just added with a ref from the History article) to the first

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Islam and Muslims in the U.S. are very interesting topics (say I). But, aye, Muslims make up less than one percent of the U.S. population, and their portion of the population grew by 76.71% in the period 1990–2001; the criteria for mention in this article section were (1) the group represents at

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Hi, 195.70.32.136. Sometimes, the 'quality' of a transportation network is a measure of its ability to connect many different points, not the efficiency of what moves the vehicles along the paths. By this measure, a network that requires a highly tangled/circuitous route to get from one specific

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And I found an answer. I noticed that in the demographics section we use the {{main|...}} template in sub sections. I have applied to same principle to the Economy section and have to say it seems to be working great. There are not only less than five articles in the first template, the list of

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Well, democracy certainly did not mean the same thing back then, and the American revolution wasn't near as anarchcistic as the French revolution. The problem is as you outlined that the US wasn't really a liberal domcratic republic for much of its history as essential rights such as voting and

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I see "(some would say, the pivotal)" is kind of a weasel wording, of course, then again, power is a subjetive matter. Nonetheless the US is the world's most powerful country. Perhaps, we should just get rid of the "some would say" and simply provide a citation with the statement. OF course the

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More research should be done on the European heritage of American whites. I find it hard to believe that English ancestry is not the largest ethnic group among whites. I understand that these figures were self-reported in the 2000 Census and may very well be underreported; as a former British

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I'm sorry, but the climate section is a real mess. I read it but i can't figure out HOW is the climate of the USA. The only information I get it that is very variable...what a guess! in a continental size country! how couldn't I figure out. Seriously, that section is not about climate but about

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No its isn't. Undocumented workers are not counted. The population clocks do not count illegals, who also don't count in determining political representation. The official population of the US is 301,000,000. The actual population is 313,000,000. The things is that illegals do not have a legal

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No they arn't. This article is suppose to give a comprehensive snapshot of the United States. Seeing the complzity of this article's subject matter, only the most essential attributes of this country may be mentioned. The Amerindian Amerindian cultivation of goosefoot, squash, and sunflower is

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Why does the article on the political history of the United States of America have to retroactively address thousands of years of indigenous history pre-USA? Indigenous history is obviously treated at length in other articles. It is only relevant here as it affects the topic of USA. Links to

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We've been over this before. Yes, technically the US streches from the Eastern hemisphere to the Western Hemisphere. The map does indlude the 2 States, but the area occupied by the US is simplified as stating that the US streches from Atlantic to the east to the Pacific in the east would a bit

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Yes, I think it's important to understand that the article mentions the freight rail system. Europe and Japan certain have much more availability of public passenger transportation by train, but the United States has a very efficient freight rail system. It's actually improving too as many

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to the expansion suffrage, the link is not made that strongly in my proposed edit - no implication is made that it is the SOLE requirement. Furthermore, there definitely is a link between and suffrage - suffrage is ONE requirement, and as it grew, so too did the democratic nature. My text

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There are two many climate zones in the US, to describe the climate in the same manner as one would do for a smaller country such as France. There is Reainforest in Hawaii, Desert in Arizona, Artic parie in Alaska, Continental nother forest in the north-east, etc... In Chicago it snows and

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Historically, American railways are steam locomotives in the 19th century, then switched to electrified locomotives in 1900s, switched again to diesel engines around WWII. I am not a mechanic, but I believe there should be some sane reason to switch from electrified ones to diesel ones, so

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least one percent of the population and/or (2) the group's portion of the population grew by at least 100% in the period 1990–2001. The linked article on religion in the U.S. should have more info on Islam in the U.S. and should link to an article that concentrates on that very topic. —

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Of course there is a link between suffrage and deomcracy, but the definition of both has evolved over time. Democracy didn't mean the same thing in 1780 as it does in 2006. That said, the sentence you proposed above is fine, as it reflects the changing nature of democracy and suffrage.

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Bear in mind that the American railways have to compete with trucks and ships, if not the Interstate Commerce Committee. And that most railways in the world are operated and subsidized by the Government. It is easy to see why the American railways are really economic if not efficient.

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To see the length, you click edit this page, and a message pops up at the top of the edit window saying "This page is 101 kilobytes long. This may be longer than is preferable; see article size." You can also enter the page's name in the search box and press Search rather than Go.

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New York City's population should be 8,213,839, but the 8.104 figure from 2004. If Los Angeles has grown to over 4 million officially now, I think its also time to update New York City's population, even because its been out LONGER. CHANGE NEW YORK CITY'S POPULATION TO 8,213,839.

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Not yet, as asking why this article is called United States and not United States of American is a valid question, that has been brought up before. It may not be as obvious why this article shouldn't be moved to others as it is to those, like myself, who chimed in above. I think

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The United States was first constituted with the adoption of the Articles of Confederation in 1781, and re-constituted in 1787 with the Constitution. Since its establishment, the liberal democratic nature of the government has grown as the franchise was extended to more of its

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Well, its pretty sure that the Democrats took the House (That wasn't even a close race! ;-)). The problem is the Senate, as of now its tied-it all depends on the results coming in from Virginia. As soon as we get those, we can go ahead and make the according changes. Regards,

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They live below the politically-defined poverty line, but I know a few folks who supposedly live below that line who have cable internet, two computers, own a house, and a car. That is not poverty. It should be objective - "Live below the poverty line", not "live in poverty".

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3. Your wording didn't say something exceptional/remarkable (such as "The U.S. is one of the biggest subjects of controversy in the world"—which is remarkable in the way in which "The U.S. has the third biggest population of any country" is remarkable): it just said something

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Perhpas the phrase you read intenitionaly stated English instead of British. I am German and I also do know the difference. If you could tell me precisely where the phrase is that was according to you factually incorrect, maybe I could fix it or explain its meaning. Regards,

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I also agree, the current war in Iraq may be a controversial issue reight now, but is it really such a defining feature of the US? No. This article is already very long, we need to narrow the info we mention down to what is really essential in describing the US. Regards,

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True, many many Americans are of mixed ancestry after all and some people may just report the most prominent part of their ancestry or may not actually be aware of all their ancestries. Here is the Census Bureau's report with the answer box featured on the first page:

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reverts my edit arguing that it's POV. The controversiality of USA foreign policy is undeniable in all parts of the world (you can see it by anti-Americanism, protests, even terrorism). And by not citing the huge criticism the USA is getting by the tiny word

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Okay, the project is now online. I'm very busy in my non-virtual life this morning so you'll have to help me built the project page as it needs to be expanded. I have built some of the basic framework and the project US is now open for business! Regards,

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companies are choosing to ship goods via train instead of plane and truck due to traffic congestion and fuel costs. There lies our inefficiency...with our passenger vehicle transportation infrastructure. --Thethirdperson, 15:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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In 1781 AND in 1787, the word "democratic" was a term of disapprobation among the "founding fathers" - at that time it meant only mob rule & it was only later, with the qualifier of "representational democracy" that it gained widespread acceptance

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unexceptionally/unremarkably true of every country (that the U.S. plays a controversial role in the world—which is as unremarkable as "The U.S. has some human beings living in it"). See? One statement is about something notable, while the other is not.

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There is no indication anything other than the continental US is being discussed at that point - and it is just too much detail to get into & explain even further that early in the article. Intros are supposed to be an overview of what's to come.

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Agreeed, move to revolution. The fact that the two southernmost and two northernmost colonies didn't join the revolution, and had their 'post war' populations bolstered by the fleeing loyalists is important, but may not be appropriate for the intro.

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The leading settlers of the present day continental US would have to be Britian, France & Spain. While the Dutch & Swedes had a few colonies, saying they led the colonization of the area is misleading - and just too much detail for the intro

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Oh, I forgot the Swedish founded new Sweden. So it was the Dutch, the English, and the Swedish who colonized America. So to sum it up: America was colonized by the Dutch, English and Swedish and in 1777 gained independence from the British. Regards,

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Well acutally the colonies were Dutch and English in the beginning. The revolution did happend under GB. I just feel the need to point out that not all of the 13 colonies were founded by the English; they were, however, all British by 1777. Regards,

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This sounds like an attack of political correctness and historical revisionism to me. What nations existed in 1781 that practiced universal sufferage? What nation in 1781 was more liberal and democratic than the infant United States of America?

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I added the stats for Islam and a few of the other top minor U.S. religions because this does not take up much space and they are very interesting to many readers. (If only because the numbers are surprisingly low compared with current media

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Small point which many of you colonials seem to be unaware of: English is NOT synonymous with British. First paragraph says english colonies: strictly speaking they were British colonies. England is part of Britain but Britain is more than

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Ok, if I understand how the FA nom went, the main complaint is that it's too long, (Though when I read it, it seemed much shorter and more engaging that other long articles) and now it's 98Kb or something. Is anything being done about this?

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Why are we mentioning the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution in the introduction? This seems needlessly pedantic in the overview and makes the paragraph awkward. Wouldn't it be better to defer this detail until the body of the

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interesting but should be mentioned in a seperate US article- I am personally not familiar with the topic but perhaps there is even enough for a whole seperate article on that-if the main editors wish to create such an article. Regards,

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the main article on the geographic region or is it just about the political entity? The word "country" in the first sentences could mean either. If we removed this ambiguity your question could easily be answered based on WP policies.

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I thought the Census Bureau had the duty to count all persons, whether citizens, legal immigrants and illegal immigrants? The apportionment of congressional districts is based upon actual headcount, regardless of legal status.

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to the list of "Main articles" relating to the economy in the United States. Now, however, a problem has occured. There are six econ articles but there is only place for five in the template. The following are the six articles:

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I think that the picture of the lanuch of a space shuttle is too vague when describing the national space program. The picture is also used in the NASA article. Instead of the shuttle, we should have the logo of NASA instead.

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Well if we're talking about the continental US altogether, we need to mention the French and Spanish. I live in California and the local history here is that of Spanish and not English colonization. (So much that the city of

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liberal democracy. This is misleading and historically incorrect. The U.S. has never been anything other than a liberal democracy, and it has led other nations in extending suffrage. More specific to the suggested language:

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There is a lot of people that have migrated in the nineties from Ex Yugoslavian countries such as Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia and I just wanted to add those countries where it says Slavic countries such as Poland and Russia.

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Well New Amseterdam and the sorrounding area was one of the most populated areas-then and now. But actually as far as I know parts of Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania dutch country) and Delaware were also dutch colonies. Regards,

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which needs to be reflected in the used termonology. While I am not saying that I favor the use of weasel words, I certainly do not, I am doubtful whether or not this article really contains so many weasel words. Regards,

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It's ridiculous that the Iraq War should have as large of a section as the American Revolution, or that it should even have a section at all (given that the other sections are things like "colonization" and "civil war").

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Where it lists the GDP/capita of the US, it says that it is the 8th highest, with a link to the list of countries ordered by the same statistic. The list indicates, however, that the US is the 3rd highest, not the 8th.

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and other states was determined to remain loyal to the crown, and desired to remain within the British Empire. The reasons were as varied as the people themselves, but the overriding principle was loyalty to the King.

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2 separate parts contradict "Native American 9000BC" (no citation, I have now requested one), but header claims 15000 years (with reference)! My Maths goes like this: 9000BC +2000 years = 11000 years =/= 15000 years!

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It is still not clear what the name of the USA is. Is it "The United States of America" or "United States of America?" Did this ever change. I thought I remembered something about changing a preposition or something.

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195.70.32.136, you should be aware that "electrocution" is a promanteau of "electricity" and "execution". It only refers to execution by electric current, so you used it incorectly. Just thought I'd tell you. :)

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Well, they are modern than in the US, largely because of government subsidy. They are however, not more efficient in getting goods from A to B than the American system, at least that's as far as I know. Regards,

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I concur. The evacuation of the Loyalists or Tories after the war is a very minor point in American history (and I studied American history in college in a course taught by a winner of the Pulitzer Prize).

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Yes there are. The US truly is one of the most diverse and pluralistic countries on earth and its ever changing popluation includes many from Slavic countries such as the former Yugoslavia. Best Regards,

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The present day continental United States has been inhabited for at least 15,000 years by indigenous tribes. In the 16th century European exploration and settlement began, led by the English, Dutch and

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status. That said, undomcumented persons are counted by the Bureau but are not included in the offical figures used for representation nor are they included in the country's offical population stats.

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is for things that are yet even more obvious than this article's naming convention. IMHO a resounding "Oppose" above should do the job of keeping this article under its current name. Best Regards,

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Krung Thep Maha Nakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayutthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udom Ratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Phiman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanu Kamprasit

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I think it depends whether you combine English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish. If you don't then German is the largest group (the large percentage of German names is quite noticeable to Canadians).

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When the estimated population reaches 300 million, will this article get a lot of extra hits? Just in case, I installed an automatically-updating template to provide a population estimate.

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gives us, becuase that's only objective thing we have. I have contributed to the Poverty article and will perhaps add something similar to the above there once my schedule allows. Regards,

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established their own colonies—and gained control of others that had been begun by other European nations—in the eastern portion of the continent in the 17th and early 18th centuries. On

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that we are stating the US in 1780 to be a liberal deomcartic country by 1780 standards. Of course moving this sentence from the intro to the history section is fine with me. Regards,

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Please rewrite the above, as a summary of a published author's point of view, and add it to the article. Be careful not to assert it as "fact", but as that author's POV. Thanks! --

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Nationally, poverty afflicts 12.6% of the population, or 34.4 million people. Imagine—34.4 million equals the entire population of Indiana times six, and they all live in poverty.

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It doesn't automatically update if the article is printed or mirrored. Please make sure you include "as of " when you make reference to the time when the article was rendered. --

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Yeah, but isn't the picture of the Space Shuttle a lot more attractive than just logo. I mean you have to admid, that it does add esthetical value to the article. Best Regards,

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limit (which some countries do claim) I do not see any need to mention sea borders in intro at all anyway - as the purpose is to locate the USA - not ALL nearby countries --

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Although important, I think that the intro is not the best place for this information. It would seem better suited to the American Revolution section. What do others think?

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Both the map and the introductory geographical section ignore the existence of Alaksa and Hawaii (ie, "from the Atlantic to the Pacific...") This is clearly inaccurate.

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of the population. Also, I'm German and I really doubt that 20% of Germans are forgein born. (It's more like 7% max.-I don't have the actual figure right now) Regards,

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When do we want to revise the government/politics section to reflect the recent party shift in the midterms? I favor a hold on it until all the results are official.--

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We are missing a VERY IMPORTANT part of how the United States was created. It is auctually the FOUNDATION of how the United States was created and it should be added.

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I have argued before that "maintained" is misleading here - it has not just preserved things the way they were, it has expanded & developed further from a base --

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Today, the United States is widely considered to be the world's most powerful nation and as such, plays a major (some would say, the pivotal) role in world affairs.

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cited. Anyway, I won't go further in the discussion if there's a consensus not to put any criticism in the lead. But I'll try to remove the implied criticism from

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Looking at history, (some of) the colonies were founded under England, but the revolution happened under Great Britain. So, you're both correct and incorrect. —

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Stick to the Common Name. (And it is semi-official - the USDA - Department of Agriculture logos, and other US Government agency use the US with out the of A.)

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You make an excellent case for your viewpoint, but unfortunately unless you are a published author, we cannot incorporate your views in the article (see the

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If there's a dispute about this (and I think there is a liberal vs. conservative split on this), we can use the following source for one side of the dispute:

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According to some claims, there would also be a border with Cuba & perhaps several more Carribean countries. There's no need for sea borders in intro --

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Does anyone think this article could use a criticisms section? It doesn't read as a bias article but I think a section devoted to that could make it better.

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That's why we have both figures in there-the reader needs to make up his or her own mind; we just provide the info to the best of our abilities. See:

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of the US population, numbering roughly 35 million. That is, however, only counting legal foregin borns. If one considers that there are roughly

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far too large for its individual tribes to be covered in this article, and including them makes as little sense as having a major section on the

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That said I think the sentence your proposed would be a good solution-to me it reflects the subject matter in an easily comprehensible manner.

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Thank you for your response. I'm ok with removal of any criticism in the lead of countries' articles. But that means that we should remove the

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All these discussions seem inactive now, I just want to see if there are any objections. (If there arn't I'll go ahead in 48h). Best Regards,

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It is amusing to have indicated only PPP, while an argument is divided about the credibility of GDP(PPP). You should also carry GDP(nominal).

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I agree the mention of sea borders with all Carribean nations is not needed, the location of the US is sufficiently described. Best Regards,

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than a "few immigrants...from the UK." As I say, pedantic, but I hope most would agree that's not necessarily a bad thing regarding history.

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characterize the form of gov't further as democratic (a term that keeps going missing from the article, and is worth trying to preserve) --

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Since its establishment, the liberal democratic nature of the government has grown as the franchise was extended to more of its citizenry.

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I would question the word "leading" - by definition this means they are being followed, but arguably they are not being followed by many.

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Sigh. I guess it has been a few months since the last poll. Does being a wiki mean that there is no end to tedious, repetitious polls?

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Just a few things, I'm not comfortable editing a large article however. First of all it should be "Department of Commerce" not "Depart

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In the U.S. there are living lots of ethnic groups wich settled in Russia. In North America are living ca 2.000.000 Russian-Germans (

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is poor. But are food stamps, welfare payments, subsidized housing, free government schools for children, etc. taken into account?

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Uh, that makes a lot of sense; I was wondering a part of the US predominantely settled by Germans was called Dutch country ;-)

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of every country in the world (though some controversies get more attention in certain areas, times, contexts). Something that

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an NPOV issue, though your proposed racial divisions of the history section would be a huge violation. Stop bringing it up on

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extremes and trivia. If someone could elaborate, it would be great. Not me, I'm no expert and I don't even live in the USA.

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thus the history and ethnic identity of Irish Americans differs quite extensively from that of English Americans. Regards,

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If you look at the statistics given, the amount is apparently so low that mentioning it wouldn't really help the article.

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economies should take both rankings into account, as well as utilising other economic data to put an economy in context.

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I've added parantheses around the aliases, as the introductory sentence is so long, and becoming more difficult to read.

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The country is led by Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi, whose foreign policy has often brought him into conflict with the West

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Just so everyone knows, the Pennsylvania Dutch weren't Dutch, they were German. (Minor problem with the word Deutsch)

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particiaption and equal representation were not acheived. What is your suggestion for revising that sentence? Regards,

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ment of Commerce", and the footnote given at this same point (no. 69) refers to a Yahoo article which no longer exists.

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Being that its at the top of the article, and not in a specific section, I think they are refering to this paragraph:

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There has been little acitivity on this page, so I was thinking about archiving all disucssions up to the one titled

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colony with a great percentage of Anglo names, one would think that the largest white ethnic group would be English.

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There is no mention of Islam or Muslim-Americans in the article. Perhaps a link to the article on Islam in the US?

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Right. But if I remember correctly, only the city of New York (and surrounding areas) was founded by the Dutch. —

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Yes, there is controversy about how the U.S. plays its role its leading role. So, yes, the role is controversial.

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points." The term "Best" maybe too subjective and therefore often misunderstood in its intentions. Best Regards,

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I agree with you. This is a bit too deep for the intro. I still support it's inclusion, just in a better place.

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2. What happens at this article doesn't necessarily have to influence any other country article, and vice versa.

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I highly agree - I've shortened the Iraq War section dramatically and merged it with the 9/11/2001 section. -

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freight-passanger railway by 2004, it is gross and silly to call the US freight rail network one of the best.

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Of course, nobody wants to search for a 170-letter phrase for a city whose common name is exactly 7 letters!

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special is that the U.S. is a leader in world affairs. Not that many countries are leaders in world fairs.

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I think it was named England back then though, the formal name changed several times throughout history.

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varied climates too. Needs to be cut down a bit. (Also, how do you get the size of the article in kbs?)

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said in one, quite frankly nicer sounding sentence. Thanks for your suggestion though. Best Regards,

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Well, I'm not "ok with removal of any criticism in the lead of countries' articles". The point isn't

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Maybe the article should include the fact, that the US, as a nation is in war. Just a suggestion.

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is clearer and easier to understand. Your prosal is okay, but you need two sentences to say what

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Europe and Japan have excellent passenger networks. What of their freight networks, though? --

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policy). If, however, you are restating someone else's published views, we can include those.

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section? About how on the American Revolution, a significant proportion of the population of

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Good idea. What's the best way to do that? Some sort of template giving the current date? --

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the Eastern Townships and modern-day Ontario, receiving altogether some 10,000 refugees).

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Thank you for your answers, but I'm still unconvinced. Anyway, I'll just drop it. cheers.

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You're absolutely right, that does sound misleading. So go ahead and change it. Regards,

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I fixed the problem of describing extremes but not typical climate by swapping info with

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Also not to be forgotten are the facts that, (1) in the case of the census, this is

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political system since it adopted its Articles of Confederation on 1 March 1781".

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Whereas the freight rail network is among the world's best (and most congested)

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corrections to my post above so the point isn't lost on other users). Regards,

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Yeah, the first sentence does sound a bit akwards. Go aheas and change it ;-)

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confusing. (Somewhere below or in the archives we did go over this before.)

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related article if now much more comprhensive and easier to read. Regards,

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I tried to add the word "controversial" to the last sentence of the lead:

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pass the 'notability' test. I find this misunderstanding strange ... —

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How about: "The United States has maintained a liberal democratic

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than the rest of the U.S. almost, that was really weird.)

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if GDP(PPP) and GDP(nominal) should be written together.

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Regards, 2469:06:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC) 2448:06:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC) 2357:18:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 2333:14:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 2317:Knowledge:Original research 2307:20:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC) 2284:20:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC) 2274:19:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC) 1329:19:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC) 804:16:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 793:16:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 661:19:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC) 637:I still advocate, as I did 171:06:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC) 3789: 3675: 2426:to the Demographic section 2236:, housing assistance, the 2213:I think this should read, 2071:thirteen of these colonies 961:not to include the mundane 936:People's Republic of China 223:15:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC) 191:00:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC) 3430:Knowledge:Snowball clause 2618:This comment was left by 2367:More than 5 econ articles 2050:in the 16th century, the 1796:That leaves the issue of 1300:10:24, 22 September 2006 1294:unsigned comment left by: 255:23:36, 23 sep. 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