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principles and encyclopedic style to mention that the university does not hold the SINAES accreditation before mentioning that it is duly approved by the governmental authorities and without adding that SINAES accreditation is voluntary and that only 20 of more than 100 Costa Rican universities hold this accreditation. This raises the impression that the university is not duly authorized or that it lacks a type of recognition that all or most of the universities in the country have. Please also note that this sentence you criticize is a quotation from a publication of the
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1224:@Robert_McClenon Dear Robert. Thanks for stepping by... The word Blacklisting may not be accurate, but if you read the History of the article, There have been a lot of information from unconfirmed sources, discrediting the institution, and finally affecting students and graduates. There have been malicious publications, for example saying that the University is not among the top 500 college, while mention is made that the University is not among the top 500, a list of CONESUP or a UNESCO WHED listing is been ignored because some editor, think it is inappropriate that the University has more than one domain. The actual issue is regarding the inclussion of the website.
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No matter if "The SINAES accreditation is an extra label of excellence" is regarded as encyclopedic style or not, it can certainhly not be regarded as promotional language in favor of the university as it does NOT hold this accreditation. In my view it is not in accordance with Wiki guidelines and
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