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The lectures that are mentioned on the references section are actually recorded lectures that are available to verify. I can try to locate the specific lectures on Xenia by Dr. Elizabeth
Vandiver and cite them. If I can find sources for most of the information on this page can we remove the "original
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My - admittedly limited - Greek says that Xenos is the word for stranger, and philoxenia is the word for hospitality, so if the article is called Xenia, it should be about foreigners, strangers and things or people of foreign origin. But if the article is called
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Yes, they should be merged. Would it be more helpful if the bracketted section of the title read (Ritualised friendship in ancient Greece) or (Guest-friendship in ancient Greece)? The former is the heading used in the Oxford
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that such guest-host relationships were fundamental social institutions in a highly mobile society, where people would be constantly crossing territories occupied by others. I think this would be worth including in the article.
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However, the lead starts, "Xenia...is the Greek word for "foreign" or "strange"/"stranger", or of foreign origin" and then explains that "the ancient Greek concept of hospitality" is called philoxenia.
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I added the "original research" template. It is not really an issue with what has been written so far, but a lecture is an unverifiable source. The article could use expanding as well. --
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concept of hospitality? Any relationship in its development? (As I understand it, because
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