193:
74:
88:
53:
98:
171:
22:
67:
212:
420:
As for notability, I (again only on suspicion) believe that people living outside of
Australia may not be aware of how seriously these programs are taken by State Governments here. Certainly in Queensland, YMCA QYP is THE official youth program of the Queensland Government and is a major part of
363:
I'm thinking that what is happening here is an interest and knowledge about the topic - and desire to have the information published. The question isn't whether the information isn't interesting or important to the contributors wishing to write it, it's whether or not it's proper content for an
382:
3) Some of the content is not notable. Although it's interesting to have information published about the names and those involved in each year's parliament, it's not notable for this purpose. This is another reason why articles may be deleted - if the topic isn't notable. Please see
378:
2) If there aren't secondary sources for content, the content isn't considered notable from the perspective of an encyclopedia article - no one in the book, magazine or journal industry found that information notable enough to write an article about
416:
When working on the
Queensland section I could find multiple secondary sources with a quick google search. I suspect things have changes since comments about a lack of sources were made in 2013 so please check before reverting anything.
395:
325:
The YMCA NSW Youth
Parliament is run annually by a volunteer taskforce. The YMCA NSW Youth Parliament is the only Youth Parliament across Australia that does not receive funding from the State Government.--
255:
I am guessing that there is first hand knowledge of how the program works - and an intention to clarify some of the information (e.g., training camp program, etc.). Unfortunately, the test of
398:, it seemed to make sense to include the state information in this article and make it as robust and sound as possible so that it won't be deleted. That was my reasoning at the time.
371:
1) Primary sources are not considered reliable sources (objectivity, lack of editorial review, biased, etc.) So, articles with primary sources can be deleted as a result. Please see
521:
Removed all content that wasn't notable and was uncited. Where there is no source of information, and it's not on the YMCA NSW Youth
Parliament sites, it appears to be
445:
I thought I'd spell out my reasoning and invite people from the
Australia Wikiproject and on these talk pages to weigh in on this topic. What are people's votes:
262:
One option might be to remove all uncited information to help make it clearer - but at the least we shouldn't add any more uncited info to the article, right?--
161:
562:
I have expanded the
Queensland section, as previously it was greatly lacking. This is accurate as of 2021, so please check sources before altering content.
593:
151:
364:
encyclopedia article. The desired content might be best suited for social media, a blog page, the state's Youth
Parliament page or another web page.
598:
588:
360:
There seem to have been issues with the Youth
Parliament articles - regarding use of primary sources and notability of some of the content.
413:
I see that on this talk page there has in the past been discussion on the notability of Youth
Parliament and finding reliable sources.
73:
127:
114:
58:
565:
At some point in the future there is I believe there is grounds for a separate article on just the
Queensland Youth Parliament.
570:
431:
33:
66:
528:
Added content from the main article that does have reliable, . Books, newspaper articles and journals are good sources.--
256:
259:
is published material by an objective publisher with an editorial process. Any new material should have a cited source.
372:
367:
So, let me tackle a couple of things, from the perspective of creating an encyclopedia article, and see if that helps:
321:
Does anyone know of a published secondary source (book, newspaper article, journal or website) for this information:
566:
427:
515:
450:
288:
39:
391:
I think the Youth Parliament topic is notable and important - and I was able to find good, reliable sources.
384:
21:
541:
499:
473:
338:
304:
275:
457:
421:
their consultation with young people and Youth Bills have been made into Law on a semi-regular basis.
192:
291:
article now and got a bit confused between the two - there was only one blurb that was uncited.--
123:
202:
529:
487:
461:
460:
with the state sections and the redirect from YMCA NSW Youth Parliament to the main article.--
326:
292:
263:
103:
522:
424:
In many ways it functions as a lobby for young people as much as an educational program.
582:
574:
547:
505:
479:
435:
344:
310:
281:
87:
52:
170:
93:
241:, because it seemed that the edits fell into one of a couple of categories:
119:
394:
Because there wasn't a lot of material for each state, and seeing that the
183:
486:
Added links to three options and section headings for clarity.--
403:
bring back uncited, primary cited and even social media material
15:
191:
169:
287:
Sorry, I'ved just started working on clearing up the US
402:
238:
118:, which aims to improve Knowledge (XXG)'s coverage of
396:
Queensland article was deleted for notability issues
401:I see, though, that there was another attempt to
126:. If you would like to participate, visit the
237:I reverted the recent edits, particulary for
8:
453:and resolve the notability and source issues
47:
19:
514:I went ahead and made some fixes to the
49:
136:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Australia
7:
38:It is of interest to the following
178:Need help improving this article?
14:
594:Low-importance Australia articles
248:information from a primary source
210:
96:
86:
72:
65:
51:
20:
525:, which is expressly forbidden.
156:This article has been rated as
599:WikiProject Australia articles
409:Notability and finding Sources
351:YMCA Youth Parliament articles
206:can be contacted via email to
139:Template:WikiProject Australia
1:
589:Stub-Class Australia articles
218:for non-editorial assistance.
184:National Library of Australia
575:06:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
436:07:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
203:Wikimedia Australia chapter
615:
548:15:58, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
506:05:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
480:03:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
345:06:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
317:Volunteer task force - NSW
311:06:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
282:06:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
162:project's importance scale
516:YMCA NSW Youth Parliament
451:YMCA NSW Youth Parliament
289:YMCA Youth and Government
211:
199:
177:
155:
81:
46:
124:Australia-related topics
251:non-notable information
112:is within the scope of
196:
174:
28:This article is rated
567:Tomorrow and tomorrow
458:YMCA Youth Parliament
456:Maintain the current
428:Tomorrow and tomorrow
195:
173:
115:WikiProject Australia
110:YMCA Youth Parliament
32:on Knowledge (XXG)'s
558:Queensland Additions
257:WP:Reliable sources
245:uncited information
373:WP:Primary sources
197:
175:
142:Australia articles
34:content assessment
523:original research
230:
229:
226:
225:
222:
221:
606:
544:
538:
537:
502:
496:
495:
476:
470:
469:
341:
335:
334:
307:
301:
300:
278:
272:
271:
217:
216:wikimedia.org.au
215:
214:
213:
144:
143:
140:
137:
134:
106:
104:Australia portal
101:
100:
99:
90:
83:
82:
77:
76:
75:
70:
69:
68:
63:
55:
48:
31:
25:
24:
16:
614:
613:
609:
608:
607:
605:
604:
603:
579:
578:
560:
542:
531:
530:
500:
489:
488:
474:
463:
462:
443:
411:
358:
353:
339:
328:
327:
319:
305:
294:
293:
276:
265:
264:
235:
209:
207:
180:Ask a Librarian
141:
138:
135:
132:
131:
102:
97:
95:
71:
64:
61:
29:
12:
11:
5:
612:
610:
602:
601:
596:
591:
581:
580:
559:
556:
555:
554:
553:
552:
551:
550:
526:
509:
508:
483:
482:
454:
442:
439:
410:
407:
389:
388:
380:
376:
357:
354:
352:
349:
348:
347:
318:
315:
314:
313:
253:
252:
249:
246:
234:
233:Reverted edits
231:
228:
227:
224:
223:
220:
219:
198:
188:
187:
176:
166:
165:
158:Low-importance
154:
148:
147:
145:
108:
107:
91:
79:
78:
62:Low‑importance
56:
44:
43:
37:
26:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
611:
600:
597:
595:
592:
590:
587:
586:
584:
577:
576:
572:
568:
563:
557:
549:
545:
539:
536:
535:
527:
524:
520:
519:
517:
513:
512:
511:
510:
507:
503:
497:
494:
493:
485:
484:
481:
477:
471:
468:
467:
459:
455:
452:
448:
447:
446:
440:
438:
437:
433:
429:
425:
422:
418:
414:
408:
406:
404:
399:
397:
392:
386:
385:WP:Notability
381:
377:
374:
370:
369:
368:
365:
361:
355:
350:
346:
342:
336:
333:
332:
324:
323:
322:
316:
312:
308:
302:
299:
298:
290:
286:
285:
284:
283:
279:
273:
270:
269:
260:
258:
250:
247:
244:
243:
242:
240:
232:
205:
204:
194:
190:
189:
185:
181:
172:
168:
167:
163:
159:
153:
150:
149:
146:
129:
125:
121:
117:
116:
111:
105:
94:
92:
89:
85:
84:
80:
60:
57:
54:
50:
45:
41:
35:
27:
23:
18:
17:
564:
561:
534:CaroleHenson
533:
532:
492:CaroleHenson
491:
490:
466:CaroleHenson
465:
464:
444:
426:
423:
419:
415:
412:
400:
393:
390:
366:
362:
359:
331:CaroleHenson
330:
329:
320:
297:CaroleHenson
296:
295:
268:CaroleHenson
267:
266:
261:
254:
236:
200:
179:
157:
128:project page
113:
109:
40:WikiProjects
449:Return the
583:Categories
356:Background
30:Stub-class
518:article:
239:this edit
133:Australia
120:Australia
59:Australia
441:Options
182:at the
160:on the
36:scale.
571:talk
543:talk
501:talk
475:talk
432:talk
340:talk
306:talk
277:talk
208:help
201:The
122:and
379:it.
152:Low
585::
573:)
546:)
504:)
478:)
434:)
405:.
343:)
309:)
280:)
569:(
540:(
498:(
472:(
430:(
387:.
375:.
337:(
303:(
274:(
186:.
164:.
130:.
42::
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.