182:, and it was suggested that the curse might be applied to "any other Lichter-like specimen". I cannot find any especially notable enemy of Judaism named "Lichter", so my guess is that this is just someone taking a personal dig at someone he knows. The series of edits made by 75.99.50.122 also appear to be vandalism, and also attack "Lichter". So I am reverting to the last version by Astros4477. I'm not going to redo the Wikidata stuff — if anyone cares about that, please go ahead. --
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If you had read my summaries correctly, you would have noticed that I have found and mentioned one, Scholem’s book mentioned above (which has, among others, Sabbatay Sevi, Shabbethai Sevi , Shabsai Tzvi , and, of course, Sabbatai Ṣevi, as in the book’s title) and referred to by the article about שבתי
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As you have not replied (which you haven’t really done the first time), I have undone your vandalism and edited the footnote according to my suggestion; besides, I have now added more material which includes other spellings of the name. I am sure it would have been enough to add a note referring to
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Pennsylvania Press” which is obvious enough; however, the book does not seem to mention the phrase ימח שמו which this article about, therefore it may justify the usage of the name,
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Scholem to an existing footnote, but you obviously preferred to go on with your vandalism instead of really discussing. I will report you if you will go on with that nonsense, so you better come up with an idea after reading the talk page and the summaries instead of undoing my whole edit again. --
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Jayaguru-Shishya, are you joking? It seems like you were ignoring that “the average person does not know who שבתי צבי was” is still valid, and therefore it is inadequate to remove the link to the article about him (and to undo everything else I changed at the same time). If you look at
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