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There's a definite usage of the smudge brush to make the left breast larger and higher. I actually came to the talk page to ask why we're using photoshopped photos, as I thought there was a smudge on my screen the smudge brush usage is so overt and blatant. I'm shocked that the person above 'couldn't
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I do not see anything unusual about the image, other than typical artifacts from digital compression of the pattern on her top. The image seems to have been uploaded by Tur herself, so the worst I would expect (if anything at all) would be vanity-style cleanups, and I see no indication of any of that
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Oh really? Although I can't read the apparent source for this information at New Yorker Magazine because I'm not a subscriber, I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Versions of this statement have appeared in the article since November 2010, and I'm convinced it was by Tur herself or someone with personal
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Response: Bob has said a major reason for his circling and filming the merciless beating of Denny, which I watched live, and which left Denny severely disabled, was to attempt to drive Denny's attackers away. Who knows that Denny might be dead if not for the presence of the all-seeing news copter
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This is going to sound weird, but it looks like whoever uploaded the current picture for this article used photoshop on Zoey's left breast. Take a close look and you'll see the discrepancies. Don't know what the usual rules are for photoshopped images but I'd vote to use a different image.
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This photo is heavily edited, both by using the clarity-filter in Lightroom or a similar software, as well as by morphing the left breast. It is incredibly obvious and since this image was presumably uploaded by Zoey herself, I am going to remove it. For reference,
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contains a more neutral photo. Very different from all the self published ones where both her and the background look like they underwent a cheap beauty-filter. If someone finds a more neutral, less edited photo with the proper license, please add it.
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pronouns, which are acceptable for use in articles. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise. Former, pre-transition names may only be included
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This "article" reads like a press release and needs to be rewritten. I suspect that the author is Bob himself or one of his employees, but whatever, the article contains goo info but it's pretty much cut and paste from
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Anyway, if it is true we need some sources here. And even if it is, Tur definitely is not "best known" for it. I'll give it awhile, and then I'm removing the statement.
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In any case, the photo you seem to be asking about hasn't been used here in a couple of months. I'm not sure why you have any concern about it at all. -
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is an American broadcast reporter best known for designing and building one of the first modern news helicopters used for live news reporting.
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Both photographs are much photoshopped. The "smudge" is an artifact from editing. You can see more in the originally uploaded image (
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link doesn't actually back up this claim, so I have removed it. If someone can find a reliable source, it can be added back.
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see anything unusual about the image' it's like hello - giant smudge brush, size 40+ px used without any blend mode.
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Reference 27 ("Ben Shapiro Speech About the Incident on YouTube") leads to a YouTube account that has been closed.
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Presumably, you are talking about the uncropped version that was in use two years ago. I still see nothing.
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is an American broadcast reporter who often credited with revolutionizing the way breaking news is covered.
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How lazy are you. just google Tur's name and read the Los Angeles Times stories written about him (
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This is bunk. The "often credited" part is out until someone can produce some citations.
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Should the threats made on national TV to Ben Shipiro not be included?
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http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/12/bob-tur-transgender-woman-zoe/
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FWIW, this seems to be the article they're referring to:
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guideline because it contains material about one or more
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expressed gender self-identification. Some people go by
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Controversy about Tur's claims about PCOS and trans men
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