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Please note that the the most recent proposed change has evolved substantially from its initial draft. It nowhere claims that bestiality is legal. At least, that is not the intention. The current proposal cites several sources which interpret the law as being either conditional or unconditional. This
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Germany has a total ban on bestiality. This was supported by citing the legal interpretation from the
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is a practice that "neglects, overlooks or directly suppresses evidence that could lead to a complete picture". Adding more sources here is not cherry picking as we do not have a good reason to ignore those sources. So far you could not bring forth such a reason either but adamantly demand to neglect
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Given your repeated refusal to take the slightest bit of notice of what I have been telling you with regard to
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requirement. Changing a sentence from "the offense of is limited in two aspects " to "X is allowed under certain conditions" is a rephrasing by switching from negative to positive logic (comparable to changing "A is bigger than B" to "B is smaller than A", different wordings, same meaning). However,
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However, this does not seem to be the case. The law nor its interpretation does not say anything that bestiality is legal; it merely suggests that it is conditional. To interpret the text as saying it is legal would constitute original research; we do not publish interpretations of law, we can only
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in 2015. While the law was ruled constitutional, there is unanimosity about the full extent of this law. The court notes in their reasoning behind this verdict that the law in question only applied on the condition of "forcing" an animal to "behavior contrary to its kind" where "forcing" entailed
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either the use of "physical violence" or "actions that are comparable to the use of physical violence". Sources referencing the verdict either do not mention the law to be limited, or recognize it but claim "voluntary and species-appropriate" bestiality to be "improbable", or recognize it.
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I'm afraid calling the article as just "Zoophilia" might confuse other
Wikipedians. Can you change the title to either "Zoophilia and Bestiality" or "Zoophilia/Bestiality"? If the decision is made to keep "Zoophilia", despite the possible confusion to the other Wikipedians, why?
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To address your claim of cherry-picking, we can add more sources that agree with the court on the exitence of the mentioned limitation. The revised article below does not promote any particular reading but provides multiple independent sources addressing the verdict in different
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You will not under any circumstances be permitted to use
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I see now that the wording "in conclusion" in my initial proposal was poorly chosen as it implies an attempt at interpreting the source. My intent was to rephrase the source while retaining its original meaning which is specifically mentioned to not fall under the
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just adds a single sentence: "A small number of sources suggest this law might be conditional." This takes into account the sources' different weights and can easily be verified by any reasonably educated person with access to the cited sources, as required.
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conclusion, German law allows non-forced acts of human-animal sexual intercourse to some extent. In spite of that, the current legal situation and the 2015 verdict are often misrepresented in media as a total ban of bestiality in
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To put it simply: There is a law that forbids certain sexual acts. This law is limited by certain conditions. If these conditions are not met the law does not apply. "Forcing" the animal to something is one of these conditions.
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As it should be. That's why the primary source of information is the one to be considered here, which is the German
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even if we can not agree on that we do not strictly need the rephrased text and can just let the more literal quote from the court stand on its own.
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of sex acts involving animals, whereas bestiality is actually engaging in sex acts with actual animals? Is that right?
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