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319: 97: 438: 169: 230:. I'd like to have this checked in Löffler and/or Wolf and if it is a verb, please add a quote, because even reprints of Löffler are not Google-viewable. Otherwise, a neutral representation of older scholarship vs. later scholarship, giving valid props to Wolf, who is cited all over the place as having decisively dismissed Stuffo - for example 201:
Coherence, content coverage, neutrality, citations: Article is reasonably clear, contains adequate citations, has relevant quotes that clarify matters, and has translations of them. However, neither Wolf nor Löffler is available to me online, and I see a possible content problem. The German for "to
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about his exact statement. I agree with you that the prior article can be ignored, but raised the issue to dot the i's and cross the t's. That leaves the hook, which is ultimately a matter for after the other article gets reviewed . . . but I think it should
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Length and date of creation: Article meets the minimum length (I count 2,373 characters) and was created out of a redirect on Nov 4 and nominated on Nov 8, within the 5 days. However, there was a previously existing article about a website at
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before it became a redirect. I'm willing to call that a valid new article creation, but point it out here in case the prevailing interpretation of the rules makes this a problem.
210:, and I do not get hits on "Stuffo" and "sufen". It is possible that Google is refusing to show me old scholarship relating "Stuffo" to an Old High German or Middle High German 469: 328:
The size of the article--it was a longer article back in 2006, when it contained nothing but some OR on a non-notable website. No one should have a problem with this.
318:. If you have access to JEGP, vol. 37, p. 568, you should see it there as well. The connection is drawn in Loffler and, I presume, in a few other of the sources 143: 325:
As for the hook--I thought I had a "supposed" in there: ...that supposedly Saint Boniface... That takes care of the fiction part in an economical manner.
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rather than "supposedly chased away," because what the sources agree is spurious is Stuffo's divinity/existence.
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Well, they also don't really agree that he was there in the first place...it's the German equivalent of
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that referred to a kind of drinking vessel. That is more plausible, because those forms have the
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
378: 315: 278: 448: 422: 338: 288: 251:, that hook falls into the category of fiction presented as truth. I propose for discussion: 157: 389: 374: 274: 265: 244: 116: 105: 437: 463: 357: 418: 334: 153: 232:
here, along with points about Boniface and the area in support of the dismissal
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Yngvadottir, thank you for your extensive review and comments. One at a time.
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with strong preference for a hook of ALT1 or ALT2 type, to fit that article.
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is old high/middle German (not modern German)--I don't know if you can see
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this one that talks about a cup appearing in a coat of arms
84: 79: 226:, and searching on that I do get hits, for example 8: 333:Thanks, I hope this answers your questions. 160:). Self nom at 14:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 144:Template:Did you know nominations/Not Afraid 470:Passed DYK nominations from November 2011 7: 24: 108:chased away a Germanic god named 18:Template:Did you know nominations 436: 167: 95: 455:) 20:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 425:) 23:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 341:) 19:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 295:) 17:51, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 287:, who probably did not exist? 1: 60:01:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC) 415:George Washington Slept Here 45:Knowledge talk:Did you know 37:this nomination's talk page 486: 243:Hook: I haven't looked at 247:but given the content of 75:( Article history links: 352:Yes, Middle High German 32:Please do not modify it. 377:chased away a supposed 41:the article's talk page 403: 202:drink heavily" is not 368: 152:Created/expanded by 273:is said to be where 358:assuming good faith 65:Hülfensberg, Stuffo 161: 138:: I commented on 477: 440: 171: 151: 99: 52:The result was: 34: 485: 484: 480: 479: 478: 476: 475: 474: 460: 459: 458: 101: 92: 91: 89: 67: 61: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 483: 481: 473: 472: 462: 461: 457: 456: 433: 432: 431: 430: 429: 428: 427: 426: 375:Saint Boniface 367: 366: 365: 364: 363: 362: 345: 344: 343: 342: 331: 330: 329: 326: 323: 299: 298: 297: 296: 275:Saint Boniface 255: 254: 253: 252: 238: 237: 236: 235: 196: 195: 194: 193: 182: 181: 180: 179: 149: 148: 147: 146: 130: 129: 106:Saint Boniface 93: 88: 87: 82: 76: 74: 71:Back to T:TDYK 68: 66: 63: 50: 49: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 482: 471: 468: 467: 465: 454: 450: 446: 445: 439: 435: 434: 424: 420: 416: 412: 411: 409: 408: 407: 406: 405: 404: 402: 400: 396: 392: 391: 386: 385: 380: 376: 372: 359: 355: 351: 350: 349: 348: 347: 346: 340: 336: 332: 327: 324: 321: 317: 313: 309: 306: 305: 303: 302: 301: 300: 294: 290: 286: 285: 280: 277:vanquished a 276: 272: 268: 267: 263:... that the 262: 259: 258: 257: 256: 250: 246: 242: 241: 240: 239: 233: 229: 225: 221: 217: 213: 209: 205: 200: 199: 198: 197: 191: 186: 185: 184: 183: 177: 176: 170: 166: 165: 164: 163: 162: 159: 155: 145: 141: 137: 134: 133: 132: 131: 127: 123: 119: 118: 113: 112: 107: 103: 102: 100: 98: 86: 83: 81: 78: 77: 72: 64: 62: 59: 55: 48: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 442: 388: 382: 379:Germanic god 370: 369: 353: 307: 282: 279:Germanic god 264: 260: 223: 219: 215: 211: 207: 203: 173: 150: 135: 115: 109: 94: 53: 51: 31: 28: 449:Yngvadottir 390:Hülfensberg 314:, or maybe 289:Yngvadottir 266:Hülfensberg 245:Hülfensberg 117:Hülfensberg 80:Hülfensberg 320:found here 395:Thuringia 387:from the 373:... that 271:Thuringia 122:Thuringia 114:from the 104:... that 464:Category 136:Reviewed 54:promoted 399:Germany 126:Germany 444:Stuffo 419:Drmies 384:Stuffo 381:named 335:Drmies 284:Stuffo 281:named 249:Stuffo 208:saufen 190:Stuffo 175:Stuffo 154:Drmies 111:Stuffo 85:Stuffo 354:sûfen 308:Sufen 220:Stauf 216:Stuvo 212:sûfen 204:sufen 58:Panyd 16:< 453:talk 441:for 423:talk 371:ALT2 339:talk 316:this 312:this 293:talk 261:ALT1 206:but 158:talk 142:and 393:in 269:in 218:or 120:in 56:by 43:or 466:: 397:, 361:be 172:on 124:, 69:( 39:, 451:( 421:( 401:? 337:( 291:( 224:t 178:: 156:( 128:? 90:) 73:)

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Hülfensberg
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Hülfensberg, Thuringia, Germany
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Stuffo
Hülfensberg
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Stuffo
Stuffo
this one that talks about a cup appearing in a coat of arms
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Hülfensberg
Stuffo
Hülfensberg
Thuringia
Saint Boniface
Germanic god
Stuffo

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