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OK guys let me start off by saying I'm a baby user who doesn't know HTML, CSS, or basically any syntax other than what I have picked up, so this is how I have been using this template, and I like that it lets me put column breaks in wherever I want. I am not very familiar with where to post this but
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I edited my original post. It was making columns but since I was using table format I needed to add class="db-d2lraXRhYmxl" for it to work with that syntax. Also to answer your question, I use Chrome. Thanks for the quick feedback!
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It's to do with lost newlines. This is not a fault in this template specifically, but concerns what happens to whitespace when one templates passes a value onto another template. If you follow through the templates that are used,
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