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371: 395: 270: 359: 201: 456:"This article documents a current weather event. Information regarding it may change rapidly as more information becomes available; news reports and other primary sources may be unreliable. The last updates to this article may not reflect the most current information about this weather event for all areas; please refer to your local weather service or media outlets for the latest weather information pertaining to a specific location." 260: 232: 127: 432:(which is currently using this template). I do realize that the current template somewhat addresses this, but I also feel this should be made a bit clearer (Again, because this is the internet.) on some current weather event articles. Perhaps, if this isn't viable for default text, it might be viable as a parameter, such as 427:
I would like to gather consensus for a change in the text of this template to add a warning not to refer to Knowledge for current watches and warnings and to instead refer to their local meteorologist (or something like that). I know it sounds like a given, but this is the internet. I feel this may
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That wording looks great! I don't think we'd even need to program in a second parameter to add it because the new wording is pretty neutral. Although I would probably change "a specific location" to "your location" because I doubt "your local weather service" in Orlando, FL would cover weather in
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Personally, I think it would be a good idea to link to the advisories for weather events like a hurricane or tropical storm. Not only would we be saying "Hey, don't use us to get current information," but also "Use this instead." Whoever said it's an important piece of information in the original
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Hold on. I think we need more of a consensus in order to make the change, regardless of what the outcome of the last discussion was. I know you're an admin, and you have probably already done this, but have you posted about this discussion to relevant WikiProject talk pages?
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It was concluded that this ad hoc notice was primarily redundant, except for the addition of an external link to a primary, official source of the latest weather information. It was then suggested that another parameter could be added here to
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The historic interpretation of NDA for current templates is that it is considered an exemption, insofar that the templates only disclaim that an article is undergoing frequent edits due to the timely nature of its subject.
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In this case, I would agree with using IAR because, as I said, this is the internet. We don't want people relying on Knowledge for information that could save their lives.
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I did the recent bold changes because there is a wider community consensus to avoid inserting redundant or similar tags at the top of the page. This has been stated on
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As an aside, anyone who is silly enough to rely on Knowledge for the latest, up-to-date, current information should get full-force whatever is coming to them... 8)
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General consensus here seems to be for the change. Could someone more skilled with templates than I am make the change? I don't want to break anything.
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to allow such an external link. However, the debate then became inactive without any further action or consensus here. Cheers.
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Addition of an optional parameter to list a primary, official link to latest weather information
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was also created, copying this same "Active hurricane disclaimer", but deleted on grounds of
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And as I stated, another user attempted to save this notice into the template namespace as
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I would agree, not just for severe events, and would suggest changing the template to read:
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and related subjects on Knowledge. To participate, help improve this article or visit the
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but this seems to have never been brought up on those talk page. Also it appears that a
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discussion wasn't wrong. And before anyone points out something along the lines of
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As I said, this is the internet. There are definitely people like that on here.
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in the spirit of NDA. There's a line that has been crossed with this messaging.
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The combined functionality seems alright to me. Why would there be an issue?
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The current event templates are one of the exceptions to that guideline. --
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I have now modified it to get something working, and then added it to
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be especially useful on high-impact weather events, such as
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Talk:Hurricane Irma/Archive 2#Active hurricane disclaimer?
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Savage (but all the more reason to add the disclaimer).
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