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what Knowledge is about. Knowledge isn't Usenet, or Google News, or indeed any kind of information source that can be relied upon to give information that is both accurate and up-to-date. Of course, neither Uaenet not Google News are reliable either. But at least we don't squat on the turf in a position that might be interpreted as a claim to ownership.
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I read somewhere around here that the word 'vehicle' was added to the template to refer to a camper, mobile home, or other 'live in' vehicle. I think this is a little redundant with 'shelter'. To me, it really reads as 'in motion vehicle' rather than something that can be both a shelter AND a moving
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article during landfall. While the article turned out well enough, we did experience a fair amount of false information throughout the course of the article's development; mainly as a result of unsubstantiated rumors being added as well as vandals of the sneakier sort. I think it's only fair that we
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An encyclopedia is a long, slow project that can never claim to be up to date. These facts are covered in our site disclaimer (which is linked from every page you read, if you're reading Knowledge). Adding "current event"-related templates to articles, giving whatever information, misrepresents
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This template will almost always be used with {{current}}. I would suggest that {{current}} come first for two reasons. First, the currentness of the article includes the hurricane warning. Second, HurricaneWarning is wide, so having the little {{current}} box under the wide HurricaneWarning box
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Looks good. I think ] would be better since it would allow for arbitrary names of hurricanes (in case it needs a year disambiguating it or for whatever reason if it doesn't start with "Hurricane "). Can a template have an optional second argument that could be used as the link target?
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And I think Loren's capsulization there is probably the best explanation to those in the "who do we think we are that people would listen to us" and "are our readers really that stupid?" camps, as well. Would the extra sentence pointing out that anyone can edit be worth
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Looks good. I just changed it so the {{{1}}} isn't in link brackets, that way when it is used on said hurricane's page, it doesn't create a link back to that page. Can an admin edit this page, HurricaneWarning, to be HurricaneWarning2?
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Ok, I made it into {{1}}. With the current software, there's no way to make an optional parameter -- the usual strategy, is to have one version of the template that accepts a parameter, and one that doesn't, as is the case with
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Given that not all storms are major and that some are more powerful that others but all can cause significant damage i wish to propose a change in this template, based apon the {{Currentdisaster}} , to as follows:
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So Knowledge policy is negotiable? It seems to me like this is exactly the type of thing WP:NDT was intended to cover. It seems the discussion basically says guidelines don't apply 'cause they just don't. This is
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This is a very new policy... less than a few weeks. The old discussion was from over a year ago. I wouldn't call the participants of that discussion "stupid". In any case, I nominated this template for deletion.
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Comment - one doesn't re-open to gather consensus, one opens an RFC to gather consensus, but in any case it appears that you have reached consensus on the proposed edit.
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I don't think the reasoning behind it is legal; it's rather humanitarian. We really don't want people risking theiir lives on a page that could be vandalized.--
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There are many things wrong this this template. It emphasizes drama and authority and it uses present tense. We should just get rid of it altogether.--
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I think of medical conditions as "live" as they are happening to somebody right now and medical research is being done on many of them right now.
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People who are going to be affected should probably heed the advice in the template, too. So, I changed it. 10:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
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I asked a few sections above basically the same question. I then realized that extensive discussion had already taken place at a
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Information in this article may not be current or applicable to your area. Residents of areas under threat from or affected by
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I removed the command at the end of the template telling people how to decide whether or not to evacuate, because it is POV.
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Wait, it's ok for it to link to itself, self-links always just appear in bold. For instance, a link to this very talk page:
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Well I am one of the many people that will be affected by Hurricane Rita, and I appreciate those that made this warning. ~
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work with this template (i.e. the new red=yes parameter). It seems silly to have to modify this template every time that
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I'm not familiar with the features of MediaWiki's templates, but it would be nice if the HurricaneWarning linked to
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I'm not taking a position on the desirablity or otherwise of the template, but it's probably worth saying that
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Though this article is updated frequently, it may not reflect the most current information about this cyclone.
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Anyone think it should be "their respective authorities" since the Subject of the sentence is "Residents"
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What's wrong with it? There have been ongoing image issues on the server side, if that's the problem. --
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It could be, if the template were not protected, by making it into a link, i.e. replacing {{1}} with . --
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Residents of areas under threat from or affected by {{{1}}} are advised to seek information from
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Knowledge policy is negotiable. It wasn't handed down from on high...well, most of it wasn't. --
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I support the change as well. So it doesn't violate the policies pointed out at the TFD.
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I'm supposed to be on wikibreak, but shouldn't the template work in all browsers? With
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As i see it Tropical Cyclone Articles are LIVE where as Medical Articles are not live
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into a template message on all medicine related articles. Why do we need to duplicate
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Information regarding {{{{1}}}} may change rapidly as the event progresses.
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regarding no disclaimers in articles. The text in the article is currently:
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twice and the conclusion was that this template is an exception to the rule
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Great. I just updated everything that links to it and added usage above. —
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looks weird. I will go ahead and make that change to Hurricane Rita. —
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I can't see any reason why it wouldn't, and I concur: merge it in.
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are advised to seek information from the respective authorities.
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I support the change, and I will change it if others agree. ♬♩
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This template is essentially the same one that was used on the
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This template should not be used. It has no place here. --
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and points have been raised that it does not comply with a
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vehicle. I suggest dropping 'vehicle' completely. --
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Index

Template talk:Current weather event
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
BenFrantzDale
02:07, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Pharos
02:12, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
user:zanimum
24.250.136.236
04:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
BRO-co03
05:09, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Hurricane Katrina
Loren
06:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
BenFrantzDale
16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Baylink
18:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
BenFrantzDale
16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Current
Jdorje
05:19, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Baylink
18:58, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Hurricane Rita
Houston, Texas
BenFrantzDale

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