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editors getting work done efficiently). The proposed category isn't "redundant" anyway, it's a superset that would have the existing categories as subcats, and this is an entire routine situation. If a) someone actively wants to use this one, and b) it will thus result in actual cleanup work, that trumps c) "it seems redundant to me, who will not be doing this cleanup work anyway". Basic common sense. If "All ..." cleanup categories were useless we would not have any of them, but in fact we do have a large number of them. I.e., there is pre-existing consensus that they serve a purpose and can be created when people want them. The only reason this discussion even exists is because the affected template has TE protection on it, and template protection exists to prevent disruptive abuse of templates, not to create pressure points to leverage.

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been flagged (for which the existing categories and their subcats are good); someone else might want to see a big list of all such articles in a broad category (e.g. BLPs) and scan for ones to work on by picking the most obviously famous (notable, high-traffic) cases first, for example, while someone else might want to do something similar by focusing on articles with no disambiguator (more likely to be primary topics); someone else might simply want to work on them alphabetically. It's not WP's job to force particular work habits on volunteers by denying them organizational options. Those opposed to "All ..." categories should do an RfC at

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information is kosher, but their biographical information is no more verified than Knowledge (XXG) editing. If that is correct then we could go for something like "which can be relied on for screen credit information, but the biographical info is user generated like wikipedia, and therefore no more suitable as a reference for an article than another wikipedia article would be." I'm afraid that is a bit long, but it could be made a separate page, or a link to

22: 5169:: Another day has passed, with additional notices posted. Only one new editor has appeared, and they voiced support. After four days, there are now three editors supporting with justification (myself, Andy W., and Herostratus) and still only one opposed (with a "justification" that has convinced no one). With no hint of any more editors showing up, any reasonable standard of consensus has been met. Please enact the requested edits to all three templates. — 71: 53: 5231: 4220: 6574: 6429: 6306: 6086: 5924: 5792: 5582: 5355: 5139: 4429: 4164: 3552: 3437: 3013: 2751: 2663: 2391: 1849: 1760: 1621: 1500: 1115: 907: 288: 5419:. The main opposition to the addition of the code to this template is with regard to the existence of said cat, so I suggest nominating it for deletion if they are still interested. I also think, due largely to the opposition above, that the presence of the code in this template should not be admissible as "evidence" for keeping the cat (if taken to CFD). 5333:@SMcCandlish Your voice of support is duly noted, and makes the count 4:2, but I think I am right on the procedure: an editor should not re-add a request template for an edit he knows is controversial till such time as there is consensus. That is disruptive behavior, especially in this case where the editor was informed of the correct procedure. 6132: 6047: 5397: 3774: 2615: 1670: 1188: 871: 3507: 3363: 2974: 2717: 145: 959:. It should also be changed to "Articles needing additional references". However, I think we should actually delete that entire DMCA line from this template. Why do we need to double up the BLP articles into both the Blp refimprove and the non-Blp refimprove articles? We don't double up for the Blp unreferenced template. 81: 434:, a source that many regard as unreliable for at least some kinds of information. Basically the templates include all the text of BLP sources / BLP refimprove, and insert another sentence or two commenting on IMDB as a source, calling for addition of other sources. These templates were proposed and developed at 5670:

Hi, could the exclamation mark image on the template be replaced with the open book image as I think the exclamation mark should be reserved for BLPs with no sources. This is for aesthetic reasons as it is on 90,000+ articles and would improve the appearance of the template.It is also not having much

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Sorry, I don't understand your reply, or whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with me or with the present wording. The text currently says "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately" (not "Certain types of contentious material...", as

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What am I supposed to do? I notified the relevant project pages, but there is not enough attention here to get a full consensus—there is one single editor offering baseless opposition who will never be convinced otherwise. I don't think it is reasonable in any way to hold up these edits for a single

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Such categories exist because quite a number of editors care about policy/guideline compliance and article quality without particularly caring about the exact nit-pick reasons that such a problem has been flagged. Some editors may way to work on these problems by length of time that the issue has

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Thank you, Herostratus, for quoting my reason to oppose this proposal. I stand by that opinion still: "all" categories are not needed, nor is this one needed. The convenience of an editor who claims he will use it to perform cleanup is not enough reason to create a category, IMHO. In addition, we

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My preferred editing process for other tracked issues relies on "all" categories, as do those of many other editors. Having to apply "RandomInCategory" twice every time is an unjustifiable burden. If enabling editors to work in the way that works for them isn't a reason, I don't know what is. To

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I like the idea of IMDB specific templates, but I'm not sure the current wording "which may not be a reliable source for biographical information." is going to get things improved. It also is close to being an unsourced attack on IMDB. My understanding of the IMDB situation is that their listing

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Support. Auto-populated cleanup categories are "cheap", and not relevant to arguments that redundant reader-facing categories are "harmful" (they are, in a sense, because they confuse or at least complicate reader navigation). Cleanup categories have nothing at all to do with navigation, only

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afterwards, when your comment here caused me to realize that I had probably broken something there a couple months earlier. I didn't change it for here since the documentation only talks about its use with sections, while More footnotes also includes list and table. I mean, I can put literally

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I expected that adding |section would change the first sentence to something like, "This biographical section needs additional citations for verification." Instead I get nonsense: "This section biographical article needs additional citations for verification." |section would be very useful for

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It is suggested that the programming can be consolidated into template:BLP sources. Perhaps this could be done using an IMDB=yes flag and an IMDB-only=yes flag, or an IMDB=yes flag and an ONLY=yes flag. And the current templates could be redirected to apply these. However, this is still an

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I think there should be another template that says something like "This article/section contains biographical information that needs additional sources ..." (and also a template that says "This article/section contains biographical information without any references or sources ...")

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I added support (in the sandbox) for a |deceased=yes parameter to replace "living" with "recently deceased" to make the template make sense for people who aren't actually living anymore, but are still covered by BLP. If it looks alright, please copy it over to the actual template.

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policy, despite its name, applies to all articles, lists, and non-article pages, not just biographies, or as the policy says all "information about living persons to any Knowledge (XXG) page." So with templates like this one, as well as [[Template:BLP self-published ]],

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It would be possible to add a reason field that could add italicized reason text to one of the existing text fields without requiring a change to ambox. The code would be {{#IF: {{{reason|}}}|''{{{reason|}}}''|}} but where would you want the reason added?

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I don't object to this change in principle, and I think it would be useful to help people deal with the issues in articles. The problem is it's not just an issue with this one particular template, but it was done on purpose when the current version of

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I'm not inclined to enact the request either at this point as I've become involved. Though I am in favor of the change, especially if this "all" category is in line with some editors' workflows, or helps an editor be more productive. It appears that

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Per SMcCandlish, consensus clearly exists. No more abuse of process by Debresser will be tolerated, particularly addressing the edit request on a matter in which he is intimately involved. Learn how to lose, pal, before your hole gets any deeper.

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that would justify creating a new category for it?... If it is manual cleanup, then you can peruse through the subcategories, and no need for an 'all' category. It is redundant, so per definition having it is harmful. I oppose having it, on those

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Seems like a reasonable change, but the coding looks non-trivial - we need to work out how to deal with the "prefix" and "suffix" parameters, etc. Can someone write the code up in the template sandbox and test it to make sure it works? Thanks —

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above. Could someone add it to the template documentation? (It seems the documentation subpage is technically not protected, unlike the template itself, but I'd be very hesitant to edit it myself given my lack of template expertise.)

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I don't think it makes a difference one way or the other. I would have enacted the original request as uncontroversial as Andy did; however, since it was challenged by revert, I am not willing to do so until a consensus emerges.

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section above, the "all articles" section was corrected, but the "by month" section (the first parameter in the DMCA template) was left as "Articles lacking reliable references". This is normally used for articles tagged with

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impact with 90,000 not addressed and some articles have thirty + refs and just need one or two more so an exclamation mark seems inappropriate whereas the BLP Unsourced template is more worthy of the exclamation mark, thanks

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doesn't exist. It probably should, to match most of the other cleanup cats, so if you think should then by all means add in the "|All = All BLP articles lacking sources" line, but I'm not sure what benefit it adds. Thanks,

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I agree that "all.. " categories are un-needed for clean-up categories. They double the number of clean-up categories that articles are in. With the increase in hidden categories this is more of a problem than it used to

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text = This '''] needs additional ] for ]'''. Please help by adding ]. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced '''must be removed immediately''', especially if potentially ] or harmful.

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I've alerted every applicable forum I know of to get some more attention here. Because of one editor with no argument, a no-brainer request now requires some undefined level of input before it will be enacted. Editors

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Andy M. Wang's support isn't enough for you? We have two editors making a case, and one editor failing to do so; seems like enough of a consensus already. Please allow another admin to weigh in on that question.

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template. This change should only be made after substantial discussion resulting in strong consensus since it removes a parameter. This change removes the ability to specify that it may only apply to a section.

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I believe everything is from a verified source ie respected newspapers, online specialist magazines and sailing organisations, specific URL's are added and references amended. Please consider removing this tag

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If it is manual cleanup, then you can peruse through the subcategories, and no need for an "all" category. It is redundant, so per definition having it is harmful. I oppose having it, on those grounds.

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I have seen some people incorrectly remove or replace this template from articles about people who have recently died. This should clarify that BLP applies to living and recently deceased people.

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And I second Chris: why do "hide" one of the biggest problems? This problem is just too serious to get small version. I marked the edit request as not done since we need first a consensus here.

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Andy, I have undone the edit, since this was suggested only yesterday, and not enough time was given to express opinions. Please keep in mind that not every edit that works also has consensus.

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is showing over 90,000 articles, but in reality 58,880 of them are BLP sources articles, only about 38,000 (some double ups) are actually needing more reliable references (note the size of

for the reason stated above and below, that if an editor wants to do cleanup work, he can take article from the existing categories, and there is no reason to create an "all" category.

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Looks great, works great; thanks Nyttend, Monty845 and Redrose64! The "reason" text goes at the end, just as in uw templates - perfect. I'll leave italics up to the individual, since

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Not sure about this one - it would make the template text more unwieldy, and editors who remove this template from articles about people who recently died should just be pointed to

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needs additional citations for verification..." However, the template is only intended to be used on BLPs. Since "biographical article" may be interpreted to include biographies of

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Oh well, so much for reason ;) I see that ambox has no provision for an added note as implemented in the uw templates. Getting anything added to ambox should be easy (smirk). --

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Why would we ever want to use a small template for an issue as serious as this? Small support should only be necessary for specific templates, rather than every ambox.

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on that. But if Swpb needs to pick with more uniform probablility among all BLPs in this intended scope, then the "all" category is probably the best way to go.

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Thank you for answering. I had read your December post, but didn't understand from what you had written that this was the intended and planned behavior for the

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I see there's a deceased=yes option for recently deceased people. It's currently undocumented. I only found out about it from seeing the talk page section

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in that manner constantly, and there is no other way to achieve that functionality. Second, no one has demonstrated how these categories harm or interfere

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As no one has seemed to have noticed the change made above, the duplication isn't done on any other BLP specific template, and I've now added the entire

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You appear to have overlooked the part of the discussion above beginning at 02:45, 5 October 2016 (UTC), and didn't copy from the template's sandbox. --

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have no guarantee that said editor will not get tired of his cleanup in the near future, and then we'll be left with a completely unnecessary category.

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was implemented, presumably to avoid things looking cluttered. The proper way of changing the code would be to alter the meta-template, which is at

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The requester is trying to have the section version of the template be consistent with other section templates. Please read his original request at

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I hope further input comes from the alerts I've posted, but if it doesn't, I'll make the request again, on the basis that a sufficient consensus

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All bots that work with categories are able to take their data from dated subcategories as well. What is this important functionality related to

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Thanks! That was an unintended consequence, and I didn't see the =DATE autofill subst option. I amended the doc to make that (more) explicit. --

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to delete all such categories, not snipe from the sidelines at particular random instances. Given that our probably #1 most serious policy,

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argument and a mistaken analogy between superset nesting cleanup categories and "harmful", genuinely redundant reader navigation categories.

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which is a different process, and moreover, cannot be used on articles created prior to 18 March 2010. To point (3), as with point (1),

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Interesting, and there I was thinking that you make no sense. Perhaps you care to explain why you think my opinion doesn't make sense?

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There were a few other other stylistic tweaks as well, but everything looked good, and it appears to be working on live articles. --

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what the problem with that is. Unless that's explained, I can't imagine how a closer can give any weight at all to that position. —

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to the matter, please comment. Because of the length of comment above, I reiterate the request here (parallel requests are pending

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Hi, can the image be changed to an open book as suggested above, as the proposal has not been objected to in over a month, thanks

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experiment. And, there may be other widely-used sources worth specifically identifying as possibly unreliable in the same way. --

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The above request has had three days without substantive opposition. Please re-implement, and do likewise with the requests at

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Pwease. "BLP sources" is the thing that's missing when this template is supposed to be added, which would be like calling the

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I have not read the entire discussion above, but will endeavour to do so over the next 24 hours, and comment as appropriate.

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Eventually we should tidy up/standardise/align the entire cleanup template and cats system, but this should be done now, as

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which is appropriate for a maintenance tag suggesting the inclusion of additional references. The change is reflected at

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parameter isn't displaying. The reason displays as soon as I move the BLP sources template out of the multiple template. —

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Knowledge (XXG):Templates for discussion/Log/2010 May 1#Template:BLP IMDB-only refimprove and Template:BLP IMDB refimprove

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Maybe there should be a note on the page stating that after the subject of a BLP dies, the template should be changed to

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I'm very comfortable with everything I've said here. Template editing is a privilege that can be lost when it's abused. —

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complaint totally devoid of substance. Please invite the attention of other admins, if you do not feel ready to enact. —

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is using the {{PAGESINCATEGORY}} magic word to count how many unreferenced articles there are and it is used also by

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Thanks for catching that. I have responded by testing some more in my sandbox, and I have determined that replacing

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are any other maintenance templates good candidates for "reason=" while we're thinking about it? Season to taste. --

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There is discussion in sections above explaining the matter in more detail. The opposition is mainly from

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so that the reason will be displayed. However, it's likely that a bot will come along and move it inside

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Maybe there should also be a bot that goes around BLP's, checking whether the subjects are still alive.

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Because that this template is only for Living People, how about when you add this template, it also adds

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articles that aren't about a living person, but have a section that includes info about living people. —

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In the issue parameter, please replace "This ]" with "This {{{prefix|}}} ]". You can see the results at

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Sorry this was my mistake and thank you for pointing it out. Fixed now as per your suggestion. — Martin

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has 233,000 articles, as it has all of the BLP articles in it, thanks to the DMCA code in this template.

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One does not need to be an admin to act on this request, only a template editor, which Debresser is. —

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If you change the wording, to remove "especially" would all the described content suddenly be removed?

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So which categories are you proposing to use, precisely? There are currently no categories of the form

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If the proposal is shown to be feasible, and after a day or so it looks like it's receiving traction,

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to get awareness about your intent for a new tracking category before this edit actually goes live. —

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Done. I'm sorry for the confusion — I just didn't know what to do and don't want to make a mistake.

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contains only subcategories, no articles. To point (2), you say "its recommended that the article be

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suggested an efficient or equivalent workaround (I'm unaware), perhaps you don't need the category.

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template. Many of the other maintenance templates contain this and this one should be the same. See

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Knowledge (XXG):Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_131#Implementing_Help:Maintenance_template_removal

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Currently, there are two ways to indicate whether one is talking about a section, list or article:

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and they are displayed in that order; the talk page link (if provided) and date are placed between

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This template should be removed. The page has correct and verified references and citations now.

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Saw the diff before Anomie posted, actually. Thanks, I'll be more mindful to read documentation —

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needs additional citations for verification." or should the template stay as it is? It's not like

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Is your productivity hurt if you were not able to select a random BLP in your intended scope? If

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you have it). This does not leave any room for exceptions, and yet it is then implied that there

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As you agreed on my talk page, this closure by an involved editor is completely inappropriate. —

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by filling in the cat= and date= fields in the source code. After that in the current code is

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also be placed on the article? If not, could we make that clarification in the documentation?

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applies to TE and other admin tools that have been experimentally de-coupled from adminship).

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sources but not enough. Placing the template puts the article in (some dated subcategory of)

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do you have any thoughts on this? I don't see a consensus against populating the category. —

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templates were created, to support identification of articles that relied only or largely on

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parameters you had mentioned, but nothing was displayed even outside a {{multiple}} group. —

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There appears to be a bug in this template. It is displaying the date itself, but it calls

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exists, and with the eminently reasonable expectation that it will be addressed by someone

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parameter. It's not mentioned in the documentation for the template, so I thought it a bug.

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also contains only subcategories, but in this cases the pages placed in those subcats are

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Template_talk:Ambox#Having_all_maintenance_template_reasons_display_within_multiple_issues

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that the new category will also have subcategories divided by month (which makes sense).

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simply clutters the template. I believe it would be best to simply remove it. Thoughts? –

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Both statements correctly state current policy, which is pretty much as you describe.

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To be addressed ONLY by a closer uninvolved in the preceding conversation (obviously)

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Just now I tried to use the template within a multiple template and noticed that the

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Actually, I was just coming to comment on the issue as well, having seen the tag at

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This biographical section of an article needs additional citations for verification.

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I don't think we italicize reason parameters in most maintenance templates, do we?

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a cat to a template that is directly related to it is perfectly sensible, but the

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uncontroversial; Debresser's complaint sounds like a knee-jerk "I don't like it".

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page. I believe the error can be corrected by striking the wikicode shown below.

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OK thank you. I corrected the text. My understanding from the OP's reference to

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is improper, and I did the right thing to deny the request on that basis alone.

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Oops, thanks. Made the minor update (server churn for this is probably okay). —

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Manual cleanup—and you still haven't offered how the category harms anything. —

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with any other activity. I didn't wait for a discussion because this should be

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Template is not correct and need to be removed. This person is not alive now.

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sources. Placing the template puts the article in (some dated subcategory of)

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You are not an admin, and you do not have the right to act on this request. —

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This {{#if:{{{suffix|{{{1|}}}}}}|{{{suffix|{{{1}}}}}} of a}} {{{prefix|}}} ]

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I did state at 15:11, 19 December 2012 that it wouldn't be displayed inside

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Well it is artificially inflating the category by some 40,000 articles. The

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which I've not seen -- just "redundant" which is not argument enough IMO.

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might be indirectly suggesting Swpb pick a subcategory at random and then

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And what keeps Debresser from imposing his "Deny" after others weigh in? —

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And there is some opposition to the proposal. So let's discuss and vote.

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You could try posting to VPR to attract discussion from other editors. —

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That works. Can we go ahead and add this to the end of the fix parameter?

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line, as I don't see any benefit in duplicating the BLP articles in both

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re-add the request. With 3:2, I see no chance of that happening though.

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I think this should be discussed first. Although I see Mattg82's point.

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That would also work. I wrote this source first and the source for the

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Is the countersuggestion to simply use two templates atop the article,

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Again I have no idea what point you are making. This is going nowhere.

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Judging by the various edits made recently to the two live templates (

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Please modify this template to additionally populate the subcategory "

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Please modify this template to additionally populate the subcategory "

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please be careful about what you say, man. To all, I've also updated

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Hi, can the Template:BLP+ be added to the list of redirects, thanks

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to allow the ambox presentation usable for section-type templates.

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TemplateEditors or admins reviewing this also need to keep in mind

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Per the comment above, could you please move the reason inside the

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certain types of contentious material "must be removed immediately"

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the conclusion will be that there is consensus for this category,

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added. The only templates that will populate the new category are

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Probably have to wait several days, but the sync will probably be

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should do it, wait for it to go through the job queue, then go to

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instead" - not true, in fact the action to take in such cases is

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I understand. However, the fact that he created those categories

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Thank you. The tweaks were so minor, I didn't even mention them.

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as that pertains more to Knowledge (XXG)'s policies. Thank you!

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Category:Articles lacking reliable references from October 2010

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to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you.

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from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially

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Category:Articles needing additional references from May 2012

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as an alias for the first positional parameter was added by

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Wording is weird; is there an unlisted parameter to fix it?

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Based on the discussion above, I see no compelling reasons

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I oppose all "all" categories", since they are not needed.

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persons, can the template be reworded? Should it say "This

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Add flag for non-biography article or list with BLP issues

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Template_talk:BLP_unsourced#.22All.22_tracking_subcategory

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about it, he agreed with me. I believe that retaining the

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Ignoring parameters which don't display any text (such as

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shows 189,000 articles in the "sum by month" infobox, but

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The main Ambox template already automatically creates the

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You should be able to edit the documentation yourself. —

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That is correct. There will be no new dated categories. —

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sources; it covers the ~99,000 pages in subcategories of

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sources; it covers the ~99,000 pages in subcategories of

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to add the category to this template. The simple act of

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Please change the link from the Knowledge (XXG) article

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Category:All articles with topics of unclear notability

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without prior discussion should not work in his favor.

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Understood, and I've done your first request. — Martin

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this discussion is closed by an uninvolved editor and

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any conceivable harm that this solution could cause. —

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and fix all instances. Then remove the code again. --

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The template is adding pages to this category. Isn't

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with no adverse occurrences indicated. Thank you. --

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to recognized params (was uncaught earlier, used in

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IMDB and other specific, possibly unreliable sources

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But its default categories 6344:{{subst:tfm|help=off|1=More citations needed}} 6077:Template-protected edit request on 4 March 2019 3428:Template-protected edit request on 14 June 2016 3176:Category:BLP sources using deprecated parameter 2902:the wording doesn't make sense. Take a look at 2742:Template-protected edit request on 7 April 2016 1923:Not done per Debresser's comment; for example, 1148:Category:Articles needing additional references 1063:Category:Articles needing additional references 1012:{{DMCA|Articles needing additional references| 533:Category:BLP articles lacking sources from 2010 500:. 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See my 3072:seen anybody do that, and when I asked 49: 6251: 6243: 5856:. I'll leave this for another editor. 4095: 4083: 4006:You know that makes no sense, right? — 3376: 3271: 3091: 2899: 2566:and see what people say there? 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