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fifth season, shown on cable network TNT, garnered lower ratings. In the United
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What got me started was that I found B5 under ships in the Navbar, and went, "No way." So I moved it, since the locations category was already there to move it to. When I started reading about B4 to move it, I realized there was enough fan evidence of B4 being a ship to request a "real" cite for WP
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