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news, but satisfying nontheless. I don't know if you create many templates, but with your knowledge, would it be possible for you to create some type of quote template for use within other templates, since this is extremely useful for FA and GA reviewers like myself? Or will using <blockquote
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Yeah, I'll be implementing (mostly) Down10's solution. It's a pretty straight-forward move, so I don't expect too many objections, but if I'm going to edit Common.css, might as well make sure everyone agrees with the move. There will be a slight tweak by changing small to a div rather than a p,
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this adds a style element to the first div, and moves its closing tag to after the citation. the 'indent * 25 pixels' is just an eye estimate. probably a more systematic way of doing it, but I wanted to fly the proposal before fleshing it out exactly. I've tested it briefly without issue.
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The template emits a new line at the end which causes trailing referencing to end up on a new line. If the quotation is supposed to stand alone, would it not usually be terminated with a new line in the calling article? Testing with a trailing external link as a substitute for a citation.
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Well, you can copy this template into another one, and undo the change I made that works around the bug. You have to choose between working around the newlines bug and working around the "inside other tags" bug. There might be a way to do both, but I haven't figured it out. —
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blockquote.templatequote { margin-top: 0; } blockquote.templatequote p.cited { line-height: 1em; text-align: left; padding-left: 2em; margin-top: 0; } blockquote.templatequote p.cited cite { font-size: smaller; font-style: normal; }
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directly. The way is clear to reuse this for more obvious purposes. But be careful! Many people may still think that this template is for WQ links. There are not so many pages currently using it that they can't be checked to verify proper use. ~
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It also fails if there are URL characters in the Phrase. Using "1=" does not help either. I have added a note and two examples to the documentation page.
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It started hapening after you changed the site's CSS. But now I realize, it only doens't display correctly within other templates. For example in
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Why (and how) do you quote a table? People don't speak in tables, and I find it highly unlikely anyone would need to quote a written table.
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