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I would like to suggest a change. Rather than just be bold and revert (before starting to discuss it on this "Talk:" page) ... I would like to see whether anyone has any comments first. (I am not very experienced with editing templates like this ... and there might be others out there who could
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Elevating the status of spherical geometry in this listing would go against the historical meaning of non-euclidean geometry that includes only hyperbolic and elliptic geometries. This is not a list of all geometries that are not Euclidean. Its inclusion in the list is only due to its close
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I realize that there might be some customs or other 'rules' or "guidelines" for how to arrange stuff within a template like this... that I might not be familiar with. This template seems (to me) to be somewhat "navigation" oriented ... (and/or perhaps "overview" oriented).
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provide some "advice" or other comments. That might include some other editors, or maybe just some "critics" who know a 'bad' edit when they see one ... whether it has already been "done", or whether it has just been discussed on a "Talk:" page.)
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Not all images need to convey information and they prevent our articles from being solid blocks of text. I am not a fan of these navigation infoboxes and especially if they are visually unappealing. --
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relationship with elliptic geometry. I do not find your "Pro" argument above to be very convincing. I think this should be left as is. --
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Apparently, someone in the past thought that the current arrangement -- (with a triple asterisk to the left of "
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I think the image should be removed because it doesn't add any comprehensible information to the template.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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I just think it is better to show some geometry than greek text (however importand the text may be
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is a special case of (and hence can be regarded as being, in some sense, a "sub-" sub-field of)
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and maybe other geometries, or in some other way to link to them in this template?
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making the change that I would like to (and that I hereby do) suggest:
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less "nested" parentheses in the part of the template that is for "
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one of the hyperlinks there -- and if so, which one to click on
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the reader still retains the option, at any time, to simply
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the "sub-" fields of Non-Euclidean geometry": -->
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one or more of the hyperlinks there, (e.g., the links to "
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The version I looked at ... and I am considering changing
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is a special case of (and is maybe even a sub-field of)
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Also added links to elliptic and Hyperbolic geometry.
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