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Yes, it is better idea. However, there is a lot of job to do for such design: To complete the list (AFAIK, even it is not complete, it seems that this is the most complete list of cases on the Internet and a lot of research is needed to complete the list and to remove all nonsenses); to categorize
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Well, the “basic” cases are the ones that reflect morphosyntactic alignment. If anything, “Morphosyntactic” would be a better term, though it's a bit long and thus may widen the table. Calling the whole group “Nominative” would be identifying the whole group by a single member of it. –
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One morething: When there are no inclusion of the old case table, you should copy the content of the new case table into this template. And after that, we should rename inclusion. Also, you should make a redirect from the new case table template to the case table template.
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I don't know. I arranged them that way myself. They can always be rearranged later. My main concern at this point was getting the pages changed from a sidebar-based to bottom-of-the-page-based template. I've done that now: the pages that used {{]}} now use
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Is there a compelling argument for having the accusative and nominative cases tucked away at the bottom of the table under 'morphosyntactic alignment'? Would it not be simpler and more useful just to have the whole list alphabetical?
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cases (former categorization was bad; now there is no categorization) and, finally, to remove old and to put new template in all of the articles (more then 50, maybe close to 100 after the list is completed). --
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If someone has references for existence of formal case, please let him/her write them here. While googling for "formal case", i found only mentioning of formal case in the sense of Hungarian
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and go ahead and update it, but the current template is a sidebar, and my version is a regular bottom-of-the-page one. Should I make a new template for it, or just update
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When we finish with that, we may copy the content from the new case table into case table and start with changing "new case table" into "case table". --
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While I prefer this layout, I'm a bit skeptical of the division into "Basic", "Adpositional" etc. classes. Do published sources follow this scheme? --
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There is no logical reason for having nominative and accusative tucked away at the bottom of the table.
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This template has gotten quite long for a sidebar. Maybe it could be turned into a footer like, say,
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BTW, at the end, we may ask some of the bot owners to replace "new case table" with "case table". --
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Maybe "basic" should be renamed to "Nominative" or something similar. Hmm... Maybe as "Subject "? --
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When you do that, ask here for help: we will be adding new case table and removing case table. --
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one (and, either way, go through and update the pages that invoke it so they do so properly)? –
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Alright, sounds like a plan. I'm willing to do most of the grunt work myself. I'll create {{
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I completed the transition and now {{]}} has the content of the new case table and {{
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Essive-formal case
Essive-modal case
Instrumental-comitative case
Causal-final case
Distributive-temporal case
Hungarian
Adam78
Stevage
19:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
University of London
Minh Nguyá»…n
talk
contribs
04:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
millosh
talk (meta:)
14:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Essive-formal case
millosh
talk (meta:)
08:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Jussive case
millosh
talk (meta:)
20:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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User:Vystrix Nexoth/Case table
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