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the Wisconsin city templates should be discussed, as the current setup results in some very misleading information. The concept of a minor civil division as a "suburb" is dubious. By that definition, the city of Augusta should list the town of Bridge Creek as a suburb, an idea that - at least to me - is ridiculous. Then to expand that to give the appearance that these MCDs are on equal footing with incorporated places is very misleading.
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Absolutely. The issue here isn't so much the definition of "suburb" as it is clarifying that some of these municipalities function on a very different level than others that they are currently grouped with. "Surrounding communities" would be perfect, as far as I am concerned, because, as you point
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Part of Washington is densely populated, yes. I think that you will see a move by the city of Eau Claire to annex that in time, but whether that will be successful or result in an incorporation similar to Lake Hallie, time will tell. As for the template, I think that means the organization of all
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Incidentally, the Town of Washington has more people than either Lake Hallie or Altoona, and much of it is more concentrated than Lake Hallie is. That there are large portions of the eastern part of the Town that are farmland is more of an argument for incorporating the western parts of the Town
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than the one you've made, facetiously I assume. That said, perhaps it would be worthwhile considering a different term than "suburb" in the templates. Altoona and Chippewa are separate communities in their own right, whose "suburban" nature is rather recent ... This is true of other similar
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It seems to me incorporated places vs. unincorporated places would be a much more fitting divide. Putting incorporated places of concentrated population such as Altoona and Lake Hallie on the same level as minor civil divisions with similar populations (but spread over vastly larger areas) is
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I'm for the change: I think changing "suburbs" to "surrounding communities" is a simple and effective solution. Another possibility is to spell out the differences; i.e. "nearby cities and villages=...", "nearby towns=..." and "counties=...", like at
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The template is not meant to be an article in its own right, but instead a quickly clickable guide to "suburban" municipalities. The organization is consistent with other templates for Wisconsin cities. That aside, please consider
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I would argue against the inclusion of Brunswick and Wheaton long before Washington. Both tho, along with Washington, as I've said elsewhere previously, fit the description of
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out, especially in the case of Chippewa Falls, the term "suburb" in itself is somewhat misleading as to what its role in the region truly is.
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than for excluding it from this template (and by "incorporating", I certainly do NOT mean letting the greedy City annex it...:-P)
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