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bundling directly instead of splashing a tag in the text. When encountering a refbomb, I usually try to trim the citations myself, but it's often better to leave this to editors who are already knowledgeable with the subject matter and its RS coverage, so they can select the best sources to keep among all those cited. Therefore I reckon it's better to inform the "local experts" with this tag, and guide them to the most appropriate advice. —
196:– One is an inline template; the other is a standard maintenance tag. Both have the similar purpose: inform readers that a page or statement may have too many citations or references. However, the current names are very confusing. Also, the inline template is transcluded in 100+, while the other is transcluded in seven pages. If the suggested titles are not suitable names, I welcome alternatives. 441: 493: 476:). I have added the current template data from to the documentation page, where it can be filled in by non-template-editors (currently it included a blank array of parameters). I would have filled it in myself, but I'm not familiar with template data enough. The change would also remove a few unneeded blank lines. Thanks, -- 576:
Yeah, essays are not dispositive of whether a problem is a real problem and should be fixed, since anyone can write a counter-essay at any time to contradict it (while an essay contradicting a guideline or policy, in other than a "consider this what-if for a moment" manner, will generally get MfDed).
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S of 8 citations or more, all telling the same thing, so that the appropriate advice is to keep just the top two or three. There are indeed a few cases when all citations are useful and should be bundled for concision, but in that case the person noticing the issue would likely proceed with the
562:, but it sounds like it's the same general idea that I had - a guideline is a better link target than an essay. I will agree, however, that removing excessive citations is probably better than bundling them. Maybe modifying the guideline to include that as an option? 538:
I believe that, for an inline tag, the most appropriate link target is indeed OVERCITE, which describes the problem and various remedies. In contrast, the current link only suggests to group citations in a bundle, which is in most cases not what is needed. I've seen
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It was fine as it was; "excessive citation" was using "citation" in a verbal sense, not as a singular noun. It works okay in plural form, though.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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There probably is enough agreement about the issue covered at OVERCITE that something about it could be added the guideline.
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I really don't see how "Excessive Citations" is less confusing than "ExcessiveCitations".
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I would strongly support updating the guideline along the lines of the very-well-crafted
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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Well yes, but couldn't you just change or get rid of the redirect instead?
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And I undid that change. There are still uses that should point to
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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Someone actually just changed it a little while ago.
149:. No further edits should be made to this section. 83:, as over use always involve several citations. -- 43:Some discussion of this template may take place at 425:. No further edits should be made to this section. 432:Template-protected edit request on 24 April 2019 327:And the guy redid it and changed them all to 8: 54:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Inline Templates 527:I changed the link target to its original 135:The following is a closed discussion of a 15: 17: 57:Template:WikiProject Inline Templates 34:This template is within the scope of 7: 337:. Does that sound good to everyone? 154:The result of the move request was: 602:essay. Start on talk page there? — 182:Template:Excessive citations inline 626:WikiProject Inline Templates pages 14: 491: 439: 1: 578: 372: 101: 523:Most appropriate link target 191:Template:Excessive citations 122:00:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC) 79:Added plural use of citation 37:WikiProject Inline Templates 462:to reactivate your request. 450:has been answered. Set the 371:going to different places. 313:that were breaking things. 261:, which is very confusing. 187:Template:ExcessiveCitations 642: 517:03:53, 24 April 2019 (UTC) 486:00:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC) 128:Requested move 9 May 2017 95:20:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC) 60:Inline Templates articles 27: 472:version of the sandbox ( 468:Please replace with the 418:Please do not modify it. 393:18:16, 18 May 2017 (UTC) 351:Yes. We should not have 347:10:26, 15 May 2017 (UTC) 323:01:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC) 299:22:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC) 285:21:28, 14 May 2017 (UTC) 271:18:44, 14 May 2017 (UTC) 221:11:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC) 168:18:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC) 142:Please do not modify it. 607:23:33, 8 May 2019 (UTC) 594:22:48, 8 May 2019 (UTC) 572:19:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC) 549:00:34, 8 May 2019 (UTC) 206:06:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC) 45:the project's talk page 531:, but was reverted by 356:Excessive citations 236:Excessive citations 47:, rather than here. 554:I didn't see that 366:ExcessiveCitations 256:ExcessiveCitations 558:changed the link 515: 466: 465: 178:Template:Overcite 72: 71: 68: 67: 633: 592: 503: 495: 494: 457: 453: 443: 442: 436: 420: 391: 370: 364: 360: 354: 336: 330: 312: 306: 260: 254: 250: 244: 240: 234: 231: 144: 120: 62: 61: 58: 55: 52: 51:Inline Templates 29: 28: 22:Inline Templates 16: 641: 640: 636: 635: 634: 632: 631: 630: 616: 615: 525: 492: 455: 451: 440: 434: 429: 416: 389: 368: 362: 358: 352: 334: 328: 310: 304: 258: 252: 248: 242: 238: 232: 225: 140: 130: 118: 77: 59: 56: 53: 50: 49: 12: 11: 5: 639: 637: 629: 628: 618: 617: 614: 613: 612: 611: 610: 609: 524: 521: 520: 519: 464: 463: 444: 433: 430: 428: 427: 413:requested move 407: 406: 405: 404: 403: 402: 401: 400: 399: 398: 397: 396: 395: 387: 287: 194: 193: 184: 173: 171: 152: 151: 137:requested move 131: 129: 126: 125: 124: 116: 76: 73: 70: 69: 66: 65: 63: 41: 32: 25: 24: 19: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 638: 627: 624: 623: 621: 608: 605: 601: 597: 596: 595: 590: 587: 584: 583: 575: 574: 573: 569: 565: 561: 557: 553: 552: 551: 550: 547: 542: 537: 534: 530: 522: 518: 513: 510: 507: 502: 498: 490: 489: 488: 487: 483: 479: 475: 471: 461: 458:parameter to 449: 445: 438: 437: 431: 426: 424: 419: 414: 409: 408: 394: 385: 382: 379: 377: 367: 357: 350: 349: 348: 344: 340: 333: 326: 325: 324: 320: 316: 309: 302: 301: 300: 296: 292: 288: 286: 282: 278: 274: 273: 272: 268: 264: 257: 247: 241:redirects to 237: 229: 224: 223: 222: 218: 214: 210: 209: 208: 207: 203: 199: 192: 188: 185: 183: 179: 176: 175: 174: 170: 169: 165: 161: 158:as proposed. 157: 150: 148: 143: 138: 133: 132: 127: 123: 114: 111: 108: 106: 99: 98: 97: 96: 92: 88: 87: 82: 74: 64: 48: 46: 39: 38: 33: 31: 30: 26: 23: 20: 18: 581: 560:back in 2017 526: 508: 496: 467: 459: 448:edit request 417: 410: 375: 195: 172: 155: 153: 141: 134: 104: 86:Gwillhickers 85: 80: 78: 42: 35: 600:WP:OVERCITE 582:SMcCandlish 556:SMcCandlish 529:WP:OVERCITE 423:move review 376:SMcCandlish 251:instead of 147:move review 105:SMcCandlish 541:WP:REFBOMB 452:|answered= 478:DannyS712 198:George Ho 620:Category 564:Primefac 533:Primefac 332:Overcite 315:Primefac 308:overcite 246:Overcite 160:Primefac 470:current 501:JJMC89 339:Esszet 291:Esszet 277:Esszet 263:Jarble 228:Esszet 213:Esszet 75:Plural 456:|ans= 446:This 156:moved 568:talk 497:Done 482:talk 474:diff 361:and 343:talk 319:talk 295:talk 281:talk 267:talk 217:talk 202:talk 164:talk 91:talk 604:JFG 591:😼 546:JFG 454:or 415:. 390:ⱷ≼ 386:≽ⱷ҅ 119:ⱷ≼ 115:≽ⱷ҅ 622:: 579:— 570:) 499:— 484:) 460:no 373:— 369:}} 363:{{ 359:}} 353:{{ 345:) 335:}} 329:{{ 321:) 311:}} 305:{{ 297:) 283:) 269:) 259:}} 253:{{ 249:}} 243:{{ 239:}} 233:{{ 219:) 204:) 189:→ 180:→ 166:) 139:. 102:— 93:) 589:¢ 586:☏ 566:( 535:. 514:) 512:C 509:· 506:T 504:( 480:( 388:ᴥ 384:¢ 381:☏ 378:☺ 341:( 317:( 293:( 279:( 265:( 230:: 226:@ 215:( 200:( 162:( 117:ᴥ 113:¢ 110:☏ 107:☺ 89:( 81:s

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Gwillhickers
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20:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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00:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
requested move
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Primefac
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18:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Template:Overcite
Template:Excessive citations inline
Template:ExcessiveCitations
Template:Excessive citations
George Ho
talk
06:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Esszet
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11:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Esszet
Excessive citations
Overcite
ExcessiveCitations
Jarble

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