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both by B. The latter was resolved in denoting bottomness by B' (sometimes B used). Shouldn't we do the same for topness, i. e. using a T' as symbol? We could leave T
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On the wiki site for "Hypercharge" it says Y = B + S - (C - B' + T)/3 while the template says Y = (B + S + C + B′ + T) below "Combinations / Hypercharge: Y"
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I think this has historical (and some practical) reason. Let's use the following ad-hoc definitions for some 'Upness' U and and 'Downness' D as follows:
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The anomalies that break B and L individually cancel exactly to conserve B−L. See, for example, the end of the SM section of
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Especially for discussion of the electroweak interaction couplings, all three z's mess up, terrible :-( ! German example:
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e. This is used if there is a need for disambiguation with the Charge Q = z • e . For atoms this is identical with the
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This is more than just the flavour associated quantum numbers. Perhaps we should rename it just "quantum numbers"? --
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Why do we not call Up and Down flavour quantum numbers? They are conserved by the strong force, are they not? --
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I split up the (baryonic) flavour quantum numbers from the others. This should solve your question. --
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my QFT books (Cheng & Li, Kaku, Itzykson & Zuber, Leite Lopes, Sterman) use either T
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I like the idea of 3 instead of z. Plus it seems more common in the literature. Updated.--
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A better proposal might be to leave T as the sign for topness. Instead, we might use I
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Please keep in mind, that we have a minus sign for all down-like quarks as defined in
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What do you think about using 3 instead of z for the 3rd component, i.e. I
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for weak isospin make sense to me. The dashes are too easy to miss. --
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have Q=-1/3. The corresponding antiquarks have the opposite sign. --
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1) z (lowercase) as denotation for the 3rd component instead of 3
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PS I looked in the literature and it seems to be choice between I
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This shows that we could use U and D as a substitute for B and I
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as a denotation for the 3rd component of isospin rather than I
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unless you can solve the typesetting problem using it causes.
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which resembles the corresponding Q term as given in article
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both are denoted by T. This is an ambiguosity like denoting
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for weak hypercharge) instead of the ambiguous T, and I
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