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of our players would come from the furry fandom, and that's fine too - we enjoy furry conventions, furry websites etc. ourselves. But we don't want people to think it's only for that fandom, or that furry fandom's what it's all about. It's mainly about making *anything* you want, whether it's a sci-fi setting to hang out with your friends in, or anime, fantasy, pirates, vampires, werewolves, modern day "normal" settings, (just saw a
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on the list which you were reading from. Nobody says you need to exhibit all of them, but I can think of very little in the way of furry artwork or storytelling which provides human-like form without implying some level of increased intelligence as well (that'd be seriously creepy). Some furries are
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should be on here. There are certainly a lot of members of the furry fandom who play
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for the furry market, and indeed given the reputation of the fandom in some circles might deliberately avoid advertising a connection, I think it has sufficient meaning to furs and a sufficient furry content slant that it should be regarded as "part of the fandom". I personally wrote an article for
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as (at least) a strong influence on the foundation of furry fandom. At their root, furries are people who happen to be animals. The characters in
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that bright, nor do they talk to birds and involve them in detailed plans that involve manipulation, infiltration, deceit and riding across a river in a raft. While there are species that naturally do several of these things, the combination is something that, as far as we know, only humans are
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Thanks for the reply. With the standards of the template you've pointed out, it does make sense to include
Furcadia. I guess what I'm concerned about is that it will give people the wrong impression about Furcadia. I can see how someone would look at it and interpret it to mean that Furcadia is
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just this problem. Furcadia has young children and their parents probably wouldn't be entirely comfortable with the topic (though they'd likely be just as concerned about
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