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idea of what we were all doing. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get a cup of coffee and see if I might actually get an article to FAC sometime this year before I go stark raving mad. I cannot believe how much time people spend squabbling over some box the casual reader browses at briefly before going on to read stuff that is unsourced, poorly sourced, or questionable. Then ask yourself why people laugh at
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Do you see him saying anywhere that he likes or enjoys this? Look at the options here. It was either we did this without consensus, which is against the rules and would have only caused you to complain about it, or we did it with consensus, which is what we're trying to gain now. Either way, you
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for a few months without any editor noticing. The change is already done, and editors probably have been adjusting to it, so there's no point in reverting it now, but I think there should probably have been some sort of heads-up announcement. (Not sure if there's currently a system suitable for
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There was not a discussion. I was being BOLD when I added the automatic mapframe maps. I figured since most articles had the coordinates listed already, adding the mapframe would be no problem. This is the first concern I've heard from it.
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There is a clear consensus for adding this to the template. The dynamic maps proposal does not have consensus yet, and even if it did, we are still a long ways off from deploying it. Thus, I will code a module shortly.
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