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have expressed their general consensus on the changes I proposed, while no other has manifested concerns about them. Basically, those changes give an editor the ability to state an author different from the two standard ones, if appropriated, giving credit to them as editors: if no author field (i.e.
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Please note that the overlinking problem is already present in the original version of the template, on which we must assume there was consensus at the time it was frozen. Also erasing the redirected O'Connor link wouldn't be useful, since it will force an editor interested in adding an entry about
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This problem still exists. (Geez, I don't even remember of making my original comment. Came here to write the same thing and noticed I had already done it.) At the very least the template documentation should be updated to say that usage in the external links section is discouraged.
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This template is confusing when it is used for an external link. In that case, it should just produce the link to the article with a little blurbed saying it's at the MacTutor archive. We do not have to link O'Conner and
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Hello, I have a proposal for this template: would it be possible to add a author(s) field(s) and also a author-link field? I know that the major part of the biographies are written by John J O'Connor and Edmund F Robertson, but non all of them are: for example see the
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I updated the documentation too. I added all the examples tested in the testcase page: please check and correct the documentation. If anyone thinks it's redundant, please reduce its content to a reasonable size, without sacrificing completeness and understandability.
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You are definitely right, the blue links are a separate issue that can be addressed separately. I think whoever wished to comment commented already, so you can apply the procedure (or do it tomorrow to give the interested editors another day to comment).
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Thank you Ruud. Also I need to apologize since I did not post anything on your user page. I'll start the work tomorrow, just to let other editors write their comments, if any: could you be the admin in charge of the update?
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The URL for the archive apparently changed from
Biographies to HistTopics. I get "The page could not be found. Please check your URL" for the former and the article itself for the latter. The page I want is
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can suggest us the right names, or we can find out looking at the editing history of the referring page who are the ones who control it. I would like the template to show up like in the following example.
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I'm sure I could tinker with the template code so that it points to the mathhistory URL instead but as I don't know anything about the bigger picture I ought to leave that to someone else !
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Sasha, CRGreathouse, I succeeded in modifying it in order to realize the format shown above, while leaving intact all the standard features: everyone can check its structure looking in the
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him to change a edit protected template instead of simply change a redirection link. I propose to adopt the modified version as is and ask for the intervention of an admin by using the
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I request that an additional field(s) be added - for the date of the particular biography. For example, the Yudell Luke biography is dated
October 1998 (see version for printing). —
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Apologies for not responding to the previous request on my talk page. The updated sandbox version looks fine. Let me know if you need help copying it to the main template. —
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in the author field when the author is not specified) templates should help us doing the job: however an admin's eye would be helpful (consider also that the
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Daniele, do you know how to do it (technically)? (I mean, having a default value for the author field that is overwritten when you specify the author?)
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nor first or last parameter, are stated, the template works exactly as the in the present standard form. Some comparative tests are shown in the
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this is perfect. If no-one comments in the next couple of days, we can ask a friendly admin to replace the current version with the sandbox.
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Perhaps erase the link to O'Connor (until there is an article about him) and also the link to
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