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That is a completely understandable knee jerk reaction, I’m still trying to figure out what could possibly be so interesting about a political pornographic parody to merit so much attention. To get page views you click “Page information” under “Tools” on the left hand side of the webpage, to save you
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Well the page for the pornographic parody has had 5,958 views in the last 30 days, a number so high even I’m shocked by it. Thats twice as many as visited the page for her SNL parodies (2,559). In fact the pornographic parody appears to be one of the most popular links in the template, its an order
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Parodies and pranks including a porn movie that she did not act in this template? Don't tell me it is because the Knowledge (XXG) is uncensored. No major Encyclopedia like Brittanica would include a porn movie which she did not act in her page!
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if it should appear here, then I suggest you modify
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whether or not that article is for an X-rated parody is entirely irrelevant. I also note that it does not contain a link to the adult film but merely a link to the wikipedia page about the adult film, a different thing entirely.
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of magnitude more popular than most and besides for the family member pages I cant find a more popular one. Clearly people who read about Palin want to read this article more than almost any other article in the template.
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