543:. If they're wrong, please explicate the problem (and preferably also help fix it). I don't see how my administrator privileges come into this picture at all - this is a content dispute and in my latest edit I used a user tool to revert, not an admin tool. You've engaged in these tendentious accusations about my behaviour in the past, and I'll repeat what I've told you previously - do bring forth a formal complaint if you think you have a case, otherwise stop digging yourself into a hole of repetitive disruptive behavior. --
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I most certainly have not ignored anyone's opinion. If you look closely, I didn't even remove the
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You've reverted again, disregarding my cleanly subgrouped version that I mentioned above without explaining why they shouldn't be subgrouped. Your overall position is still unsupported by anything other than editorial discretion. Since you've been topic-banned from this area in the past, I hardly
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If you want to make such claims, you should start over there, not here - it doesn't make any sense for a navbox to conflict with sourced article summaries. And that's just a procedural point of view - on a content point of view, my reading of the article is that there's no meaningful way to
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somehow through some more elaborate process, such as an
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and that's also not tagged as a problem. So I think it's very much fair to require the description of
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I left the subgrouped version prefered by Joy (ok?) and removed the years, since they were a clear attempt to ignore all resistance activities made (and sourced) by
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I see we have a bit of haggling over the meaning of the word "controversial"... I'm at least going to split it into two navbox subgroups, because they weren't a common resistance. --
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This template should be split into "Senior
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and its nations. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
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I wonder if Ad or FC will in turn complain about that. --
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