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409:"Pan-nationalism": Form of nationalism that attempts to unite peoples of the same cultural or ethnic family under one roof, with or without a single state. Hitler and most German nationalists wanted to bring the Germans of Austria and the Czech Sudetenland into one country: Pamyat and modern Russian cultural nationalists want to bring Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians together under the banner of Pan-Slavism; while Pan-Turkism emphasizes commonalities among the peoples of Turkey, Central Asia and Western China. For interwar fascist, "pan-nationalisms" offered a basis for aggressive expansionism and/or irredentism." 402:"It is sometimes difficult to distinguish irredentism from pan-nationalism, since both claim that all members of an ethnic and cultural nation belong in one specific state. Pan-nationalism is less likely to specify the nation ethnically. For instance, variants of Pan-Germanism have different ideas about what constituted Greater Germany, including the confusing term Grossdeutschland, which, in fact, implied the inclusion of huge Slavic minorities from the Austro-Hungarian Empire" 22: 350:"“Pan-Romanianism” occupied a certain place in this context, one usually associated in the 1990s with the country’s Western, European alternatives. It found expression in cultural and political activism in both Moldova and Romania, benefitting from the support of authorities at times and feeding on the enthusiasm of partisans of the recreation of Greater Romania representing around 10 percent of the population, mostly intellectuals." 71: 53: 81: 270: 502:
Please qualify what we are supporting or opposing. My understanding is that "Greater X" applies here where it is relevant to the pan-nationalist concept, as well as irredentism - a separate category - where it is applicable. Irredentism is, in the simplest terms, a hark-back to previous concepts of a
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I have to agree with Avpop. The "Greater X" articles don't belong here. "Greater Serbia" for example is just a way to refer to Serbian (a single ethnicity) nationalism that includes those outside of the (present-day) boundaries of the Serbian nation state. "Pan-nationalism" is not used in that sense
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national identity and its somehow 'natural' claims to territories, culture, sub-ethnic groups, etc. Pan-nationalism can be supported by irredentist precursors, but can also (theoretically at least) be created from scratch via new models of ideology. --
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Pan-nationalisms are generally defined as 'politico-cultural movements seeking to enhance and promote the solidarity of peoples bound together by common or kindred language, cultural similarities, the same historical traditions, and/or geographical
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I have doubts that "Greater X" concepts belong here, I think they are nationalist concepts rather than pan-nationalist concepts (pan-nationalism seems to refer to a higher level, to a commnuity of more related nations/peoples/ethnic groups).
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The idea of pan-nationalism is that several nation states join a supranational governmental authority - for religious, historical, economic or defence reasons - but still retain their separate ethnic identities.
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is a form of nationalism distinguished by the large-scale of the claimed national territory, and because it often defines the nation on the basis of a ‘‘cluster’’ of cultures and ethnic groups..."
454:(e.g. Greek irredentism wishes the liberation of areas from Turkey, Mexico wants parts of the USA. Greater Mongolia would include zones from China). I'd like to see more opinions, so I'll make a 352: 255:
The idea of pan-nationalism is that nation-states may participate or even be subsumed under a higher unity based upon ethnic, religious, geographical or other common features.
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as pan-nationalist concepts, because they refer to the connection of more nations that have a common feature (the same language family, religion, or geographical region).
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Pan-Romanianism describes the post-communist movement for the unfication of Romania of Moldova. We speak about 2 peoples that are legally different: the
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that share a common feature (Germany + Austria, Russia + Ukraine + the rest of Slavic states, Romania + Moldova), while irredentism vises the
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So, if I understand it correctly, irredentism is a subcategory of pan-nationalism? The Greater X articles are also referred at
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articles are pan-nationalist concepts. They look rather like nationalist-irredentist concepts. I see
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Should the "Greater X" articles be included here? What's the difference between
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I disagree. For instance, Pan-Romanianism is clearly connected to the idea of
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They are strongly related and sometimes they are indistinguishable.
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in the literature. See, for example, all of these Google Scholar .--
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is redirected to Pan-Germanism. "Pan-nationalism" has many forms.
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I'm not sure that each irredentist movement is pan-nationalist:
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and I was wondering if we can avoid this redundancy.
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