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Sidenote 1, I moved notes to the first column and match numbers to the second column. Notes are such an important distinction that I think we should be leading with them. It'll be the first thing your eyes catch, immediately letting you know something about this match is different from the main card.
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and testcases below. This allows for more flexibility, such as removing the arbitrary number constraints on parameters, allowing more dynamic elements, better maintenance tracking, as well as making it easier to make simple note additions. Instead of having to frustratingly add individual parameter
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I also don't really know much about Lua, but I do prefer the superscript and agree with oknazevad on his reason why. And I agree with Fran Bosh that the order of the symbols should be as they appear in the table. As for your question about the explanation for dark matches, I'd say keep mention of
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will make note additions easier (avoids an extra step for editors) and will have better technical performance. We didn't use a singular parameter in the original template because, I think, those of us who designed it were too inexperienced to implement it
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Improved readability of match numbers and note symbols. I didn't like how bunched together they were, how the inclusion of a note misaligned the match number, and how the note was formatted in generalβ€”both the 80% font size (which violated
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I don't know much about lua. Comparison of an event with notes When I clicked show nothing happened in mobile view. Show did work when I went into desktop mode (but it uses up the battery quicker). I don't mind version 1 or version 2.
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Sidenote 2, the notes column will only be displayed when a note is present. Similarly, when the column is displayed but there is an empty cell, its border will be hidden to draw more attention to the notes that are
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Sorry to be pushyβ€”it's been two weeks with no responses. There are a number of uncontroversial technical changes but I'd like feedback before I implement it into mainspace. Pinging everyone who has contributed to
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I could also move notes back to the second column if people prefer it that way. I previously tested it but thought it looked worse with the numbers further away from the match. If we continue using <sup:
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Sidenote 2, there is now a check for a valid time format (M:SS being the minimum). There will be a preview warning for invalid values, and when they are submitted, they will be considered blank and tracked.
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The first option is how the table currently functions. It's a small detail and will only be noticeable for a short period of time, but I could add dynamic sub-notes (option 3) to cover these occasions.
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I prefer the superscript notes, to be honest. It makes them look like the footnotes they are. The separate column, especially being before the match number, is backwards to the way they should be.
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per nom and Galatz. The naming is much more consistent with each other ("Wrestling" vs "wrestling", "pro" vs not mentioning) and spelling out the words does indeed give a clearer description. --
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I have no issue with pushyness in these types of Wikiprojects when seeking a consensus and appreciate the ping. I do also prefer the superscript notes. Otherwise, the improvements look good. ―
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Improved readability of the Key by aligning the note symbols. They were misaligned before, causing your eyes to dart around the screen when reading notes that greatly differed in length.
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Sidenote 2, future/past tense is now dynamically applied to explanations in the Key based on whether the specific match(es) concluded or not (via "defeated", "ended in" or "won by" per
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That's fine. I just want to know what you think about the results table itself (Is it easy to read? Can it be improved in some way?), propose any features that may be helpful, etc.
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Something I just thought of: in an instance where there are multiple matches with the same note and there is a discrepancy in their completion, how should it be handled? E.g.,
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Yep, so you'd put "Singles match for the Interim Pudding Pop Eating Championship" in the stip field, no need for a different "(C)" note, let's not complicate this.
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Should the note symbols (e.g. "P", "D") in the Key be sorted alphabetically? It defaults to the order they appear in the table, but I have no preference.
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Thanks. Should the note symbols (e.g. "P", "D") in the Key be sorted alphabetically? No I think it's better in the order they appear in the table. (
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Okay, it's been a week and I think that's all of the feedback we're going to get for now. I'm beginning implementation with the following changes:
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Added validation of match order. Placing a completed match after a future match will result in a preview warning and be tracked if submitted.
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We use plenty of keys in pro wrestling articles, most commonly in championship lists. A quick flick through a random sampling of them showed
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can be the only time parameter defined and the entire column will be filled accordingly (this applies to the new Notes column, as well).
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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checks to each row and grouping all of those parameters into the Key, all you need to do now is add the following in the "notes" table:
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Added auto-detection for champions (via "(c)"), so manually hiding the champions note or Key is no longer necessary. As a result,
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Adjusted the dark match note from "the match was a dark match" to "this was a dark match" to avoid repetition of "match".
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tags. To remedy these issues, I split the note into its own column, upped its font size to 90%, removed the <sup: -->
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Reverted to the superscript format for notes. The only difference is I've upped the font size from 80% to 85% to meet
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Added auto-detection for event completion based on the final match (via "defeated", "ended in" or "won by" per
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states "The use of reduced font sizes should be used sparingly". I don't believe this warrants an exception.
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Honestly, I know nothing about Lua, and rarely work on results tables, so I'm not of much help. Sorry.
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Added temporary sub-notes for matches that have a discrepancy in status (described above as option 3).
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Sidenote 1, the Key now sorts notes in the order they appear in the table, rather than a static order.
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This also places the match number closer to the match, which is nicer because they are always present.
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There have been a few pay-per-view matches where there was an interim champion (see SummerSlam 2011).
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I've rewritten the Results table in Lua. Let's talk about some potential style changes.
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If anyone notices any issues or has more feedback to provide, please let me know.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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dark match, but to remove the redundancy, change description to "this was a
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had to be defined for the Times column to be displayed. For example,
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tags, and made the match number retain its alignment at all times.
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Let me know your thoughts and any other suggestions you may have.
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With this rewrite, I've gone ahead and implemented a few changes:
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the templates as proposed at this time, per the discussion below.
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Below are a couple testcases to directly compare the changes:
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Sidenote 3, explanations in the Key are more concise.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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