694:. I don't truly believe that you were offended. I believe that when you had the chance to truly think about it, you were actually okay with it, as any normal human being would have been, religious or otherwise. Considering the origin of most of the people at Knowledge (XXG), I'm certain that if a poll would be taken, a full 40% or greater would self-identify as Christian. Pardon my assumption, but based on your comments and what I've read on your page, I'm taking a leap of faith and guessing your beliefs lie in that direction. Therefore, I am surprised how long this stub lasted without a single person expressing their offense in it. And this is Knowledge (XXG). If someone is offended, they will say it.
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I'm sorry, I thought the reasoning would be obvious. To me, a blessing is something solemn and important. To me, a blessing is a particular gift from God, and I know that others would feel the same. My entire problem is that it is a "cute remark". I think it is entirely inappropriate for a casual
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That has nothing to do with systematic bias. That has to do with missorting of articles. This template is used for all material which does not have a better-scoped template, and in particular the material related to Islam and
Judaism has been sorted better. I'm removing this tag. If you wish to see
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And I shall preface my reply with the observations that a) I know when I am offended, b) that I am fully capable of having a normal conversation. I dislike your blatant attempts to patronise me -- such behavious is most unwiki. I have neither the energy nor the time at least until the weekend to
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religious point of view. Stained glass is used in many different religions, as are hands clasped together. This sort of image would be appropriate in any temple, mosque, or church that allows for imagery. If you percieve it as such, I apologize, but please take it up on some sort of VOTE if you
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I believe that you simply are arguing because you initially raised the objection. Your initial assessment was highly-hyperbolic (e.g. "appalled"), leaving doubt in my mind to whether you actually thought about what you were typing. Having been raised in a religious household myself, I find your
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If you look at my previous statement, I said that this was not necessary. An article on Jim Crow laws is necessary, and I effectively acknowledged this in my previous message. But this is wholly different. It is not only potentially offensive, but also unnecessary. If you want to make people
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what the stub says. To me, the word "blessing", when used in casual conversation, means something good. Very simply put. "It would be a good thing if you would expand this article." is what it's saying. The fact that it's related to a religious biography supports the phrase, "it would be a
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And I'm sure that's what it meant to the person that originally conceived of the phrasing for this particular template. The use in
English is widespread, and very frequently unrelated to religious purposes. For example, phrases like "It's such a blessing that he's come home" or "Count your
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I find this bit of text appalling. I thought someone must have vandalised the template when I saw it for the first time. I personally find it offensive, and I think many others would too. It is wholly unnecessary, and entirely inappropriate. "Funny" is certainly not a good reason to have
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Yes, those are both used. But they are, to me, only used in a context where that includes the religious roots of them. I don't know the context you are using, so I won't try to understand why you hold this particular viewpoint. The points you mention are exactly the things where the word
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if you have any doubts. I have a feeling infinitely more people smile, like I first did when I saw it, than take offence at it. So what if it's a little non-standard. It makes most people feel good. And being able to put a smile on people's faces while serving another purpose
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And I take a "blessing" as meaning a "blessing from God". Even so, with your reasoning, you suggest that this is being taken as being casual conversation. Yet it quite plainly is not. This is clearly a religious context, so I feel my understanding of it is perfectly
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I agree. It was just reverted, "to preserve topical language". I've changed it back, under the principle that templates are supposed to have NPOV language, not topical language. I first came across the religious in-jokery version on
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Please explain, what you find offensive or appalling, on a stub about "religious figures" that makes a cute remark about "blessings", a universal term in religion? You can't simply say, "it's appalling" with no explanation.
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I'm not sure why not...the article is about religious figures. And since it's a stub template, it shouldn't remain on the article forever. Why not expand the article in question and get rid of it?
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