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The main problem is that we're doing this by year and repeating names many times, when it would be considerably more compact to do the champions by alphabetical order of family name, once each, followed by years. This is a navbox that indexes champions, not tournament chronology; if people want the
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Check. World pool champions is a coherent subject. While it could be re-split by discipline, this would result in a profusion of navboxes on a per-article basis instead of one collapsed navbox, since few players stick to a single
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This navbox is very typical of a sports navbox, and milder than many. It precludes us having to have a whole bunch of them at the bottom of most major player bios. See for example
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See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of
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If the collection of articles does not meet these criteria, the articles are likely loosely related. A list, category, or neither, may accordingly be more appropriate.
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Check. Other notable pro players, including other world champions, are near-constantly mentioned in well-developed pool bios, as competitors.
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Fail. Someone might want to do this within a specific discipline or sanctioning body, but it's unlikely anyone would try see-also
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is a model of simplicity and functionality compared to what's going on in the world-champion golf articles.
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Check. There is no bio on a world champion that is not going to mention world championship and that they
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needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it.
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to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see
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latter, they can go to the event articles, which are also linked in the navbox already.
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these methods should not be considered in conflict with each other
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be considered in conflict with each other. Rather, they are
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