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213: 195: 135: 164: 21: 268: 765: 927: 873: 101: 620:, it looks like the code for detecting the banner shell is only evaluated if the WikiProject template supports class/quality assessments. Both WikiProject Inline Templates and WikiProject Disambig are examples of projects which do not use this, and in these cases the "no_banner_shells" category is not present. 505:
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721:. The first identifies it as a disambiguation page and the second as a set index article. But it can't be both of these, so they were contradicting each other. Because the check for SIA comes before dab, it was identifying this page as an article rather than a dab page — Martin 547:. If you want to mandate that every page with a WikiProject banner have it be located inside of a WPBS, then figure out a way to just include it as part of the banners themselves. I don't care about "screen real estate" necessarily, but I 1233: 685:
are both disambiguation pages. Both are tagged with the Film and Disambiguation banner templates, but the banner shell does not recognize The Wizard of Oz as a disambiguation page. I can't see what is different here.
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My preference is also for blp, because that has always been the parameter used with this template. Living was migrated from WPBio, and it would have been better to convert it at that time — Martin
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for background. I think the message should be suppressed outside of mainspace. But we are trying to encourage editors to put the rating in the banner shell rather than in the banner — Martin
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We should pick one parameter to support and bring all the others into line. I'm spending a good part of my life resolving conflicts where one says no and the other says yes.
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As I said, this text is hidden for no benefit whatsoever. (The project name and importance rating could be hidden with less loss of information). —
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According to Tom you can't use activepol unless blp=yes and you can't use blpo unless blp=no, so there is redundancy here — Martin
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based on that. However, please be a bit more specific next time about the exact issue that you are solving in future requests.
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I was also thinking that way, but I wasn't sure if there was a situation where you'd need more than one at the same time.
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see little point in wrapping a single project banner inside of WPBS and giving a huge warning about it.
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As well as blp and blpo should there be a bdp parameter to accommodate wording for the application of
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Template:WikiProject Inline Templates not populating WikiProject banners without banner shells
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I see no change on that specific page after apply your fix. Per that, I'm going to mark this
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I have posted a message on the project talk page, in case anyone is active there — Martin
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I don't think that distinction was intended. Will look at changing the code ... — Martin
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first whether or not there's (still?) a legit need for both params, just to be safe.
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What real estate does it take away? The only thing it hides is the boilerplate text of
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Yes, technically those searches time out, but blp seems to always win, and as long as
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Template:WikiProject Biography#Living people, active politicians and other BLP issues
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Thanks for finding out the issue. I wonder if that exception is needed (pages like
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is the only template on a page and not in the banner shell, it does not trigger
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Category:Pages using WikiProject Biography with conflicting living parameter
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I guess it would be more logical to use one parameter with options like
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return 901,385 & 823,454, respectively, so I'm sticking with
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in general. If you would like to participate, please visit the
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Use of banner shell in pages with only one project template
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for a clear example of the effects of my proposed change.
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On 15 February 2023, it was proposed that this page be
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though, since it's half as long as living, and due to
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I think it would be good to confirm with 962:Why we should choose between blp or living 823:Can you point to a example of said issue. 189: 1081:isn't winning by a mile, I'll stick with 486:using banner shell with a single project 61:Any contributor may edit the template's 1232:Depending on how fast & frequently 568:Module talk:WikiProject banner#Warnings 191: 39:heavily used or highly visible template 1124: 1120: 1116: 1112: 1039:On 2nd thought, insource searches for 936: 882: 825: 679:Talk:The Wizard of Oz (disambiguation) 504: 446:when more than 5 sections are present. 595:Template:WikiProject Inline Templates 163: 161: 7: 1283:Would it be a good idea to combine 1178:, but only based on the wording of 238:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Council 224:, a collaborative effort regarding 180:It is of interest to the following 798:Special:Diff/1233809115/1242799168 111: 106:This template was considered for 14: 639:take less space with the shell). 440:may be automatically archived by 27:Template:WikiProject banner shell 925: 923:I see what you mean, marking as 871: 763: 637:Category talk:Citation templates 266: 211: 193: 162: 133: 122:consensus against autocollapsing 99: 19: 800:, to fix night mode issue with 377:: September 2009 – January 2021 365:: September 2007 – October 2008 1316:22:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC) 1274:22:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC) 1255:09:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1222:22:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC) 1205:09:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1171:08:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1154:08:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1140:08:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1104:13:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1070:21:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 1035:21:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 983:20:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 907:Template:Banner holder/sandbox 776:Module:Banner shell/styles.css 407:: October 2023 – February 2024 1: 948:03:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC) 919:03:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC) 894:03:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC) 861:01:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC) 837:01:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC) 218:This template relates to the 383:: December 2020 – April 2023 371:: October 2008 – August 2009 241:Template:WikiProject Council 1303:into one message? — Martin 814:20:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC) 790:to reactivate your request. 778:has been answered. 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Template:WikiProject banner shell
protected
heavily used or highly visible template
consensus
edit template-protected
documentation
categories
sandbox
test cases

deletion
discussion
moved
the discussion
content assessment
WikiProjects
WikiProject icon
Council
WikiProject icon
WikiProject Council
WikiProjects
project discussion page

Archive 1a
WPB
Archive 2a
WPB
Archive 3a
WPB
Archive 4a

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