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575:(neither of ours email IDs will be made public but we will know each others'). To satrt with a review of if things are correct would be very helpful. And a few more blog posts on the architectural details please :) Is it basically just a highly scalable glorified directory service at the heart of the service? --
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That's a much better branding there soum! Well..we could do one of two things: 1. Merge
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Hey all, Jeremy Mazner here from the Live Mesh team and blog. I'd be happy to help sort out the basics of how we think about/describe the Live Mesh platform. I am however a newbie at
Knowledge (XXG) contributions, so want to take your lead on how to best contribute. I tried to email you via the
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Knowledge (XXG), we face a lot of situations in which two editor feel they completely disagree and can never reach a compromise. What would they do? They do
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end there should be a standard to what comparable things can be, if you write every navbox uniquely on the situation then you'll get scattered navboxes that seem to contradict the general encyclopedic style of
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Windows Live Groups still exist today, there should be another row for services that were simply integrated in another, with a small number next to them for the service that they're integrated in.
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Horizon and Core are same. but of Windows Live Core she says that this is just one app in the Live Core strategy. So that door is still wide open. With one more question - is Live Core a strategy or a deliverable service/software/API?
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