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Mate, when i saw the grandson clades, son clades of R, O were there then i asked R2a which is the grandson of R and was missing to be added, but you have solved the issue by rightly giving only the main clades there evolutionary positions rather than adding their subclades and making it complex, so
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to this template brings up a subject which was inevitably coming. Do we include any sub-clades beyond the ones with single letters? R1 was included at a time when it was one of the few such clades with its own article. It also includes a big part of
European descended men who possibly dominate the
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Yes, also too biased/stereotyped. Those people pictured may not even be of the haplogroup, so technically they aren't really related subject matter. It would be near impossible to get the type of ethnicity with the most common haplogroup and individual person confirmed of that haplogroup to be
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Then all of L through T could be placed in the LT haplogroup (as is given in the Y-Haplogroup
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pictured; and regardless, phenotypal appearance has no relation to haplogroup. Templates by their very nature shouldn't be picture intensive anyway.
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Fine by me. Actually I was thinking it is a handy to have "on file" anyway because it can be adapted for various uses.--
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Though I think it is clearer to reference visually now, I don't think it retains the concise template feel of the
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I think that will make the template more difficult to understand. — Reinyday, 16:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
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Is this anything wrong ind making a template with pictures of people rated to each haplogroups?
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Not immediately clear what you mean by this? Please explain.--
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What I mean is something like this (I'll play a bit here):-
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