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comments. Maybe the article is so inconsistent because it cannot improve, because there are user around that display a dont-touch-MY-article-behaviour, that may just go onto other peoples nerves? "I" OBVIOUSLY havent said i had any problems with your list (really... just added those handful of dots to link articles that donot fall into your consistency)
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i dont see a problem. i see those two photos for both the bare information they show and their scenic impression. a gallery in this location would just reduce them to technical availability. demographics doesnt need images and the way the images are grouped now, fills out that right-side empty space.
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Hi guys -- just a simple, related question: you say the page should be in
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The "foundation" of a settlement typically refers to its first establisment. The incorporation as a town or city is an important step in its history, but not the settlement's "foundation". The previous text didnt say it was a city before 50. There is absolutely no known date for the establisment of
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The demographics section shouldn't have anykind of photo. My insertion in the "Roman
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Sorry, if i have to continue this, but your latest additions also fall into my above-mentioned critism: You added a new section "tourism", but apart from the number of tourists/nights, it only says that
Cologne has plenty of night clubs and pubs? is it your intention to portray the city's tourism
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Thanks, that is helpful to know (if i understood you right): brackets are supposed to be reserved for types, while geographic places are supposed to be differentiated by a komma? I moved two towns and some titles with "/" in them. I was looking around the system here, and agree with "Lindenthal,
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Removal maybe not. I wouldn't call them random. I putthese photos into a photo gallery that I felt didn't fit into any of the cyrrent sections in the North Rhine-Westphalia article. The photos about
Augustusburg Palace, Paderborn rathaus, Medieval architecture in Aachen, Aachen city hall, Aachen
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Hey, first of all: CALM DOWN!!! I am adding a few dots to an article (no: a list) that is anything but consistent, is lacking dozens of links to existing articles and is least consistent in regards to naming (or why are there all those hiddeen links?) - and all i am getting from you are funny
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i dont want to add to your edits. i also dont understand the structure you are setting up: "landmarks" used to be part of "cityscape", now having bridges and highrises under tourism dont make sense to me? tourism could be related to landmarks, religion, culture and events. The trade fair is
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You are ignorant! The way you insert those references and remove relevant links makes it plain obvious! I am not tit-tat-ing with you for references. you got to learn about the subject first, have the respect to read what has been said and only then we can talk about changes!
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they should comply with wikipedia standards. Who wrote the section/article about the history in the first place? I think the economy-article should be deleted, and unless you or anybody does something about the history, that spin off has no value either.
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Ok. i didnt mean to remove them all, but keep the ones that you or others think are worthwhile. "Culture" may then want to get sections for 1) Architecture and cultural monuments, 2) Festivals, and so on. Putting all world heritage sites into
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Just inserted a link from the Univ. of Cologne Institute for Archaeology. I got the information about early 2nd century from a museum plate in the Archaeological Zone (which says between 98-138 AD:
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Yes. There should be more. I only stoped because of the time. Don't hesitate to add. We could add Christian pilgrimage. The landmarks can be a subsection of tourism since it looks pretty good.
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