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greeks in Bitola. Thus Greek should go after names such as Albanian, Turkish, Rom, Aromanian and even Serbian. They are not a prominent enough group in Bitola. Whereas for a place such as Malovista or Magarevo where the population had pro-Greek sentiment earlier this century, it wouldnt be such as problem. A paralel would be having the Macedonian name in the title in a place such as Kozani, or the bulgarian name for Drama, where neither are a large minority or even present at all. The situation isn't so simple but it isnt so complicated. Some people call the language Macedonian, many call it SlavoMacedonian (Slavic Macedonian), some nasi (ours) and some dopia. Linguists call it Macedonian, would it really be that bad to have Slavic Macedonian? Especially in places such as Agios Germanos, and Meliti and Perasma where it is well known that a majority speak the Macedonian language and many identify as Macedonians (ethnically). Would it really be that bad if "

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leads, so that they are less-cluttered. No offence, but you make the intros look ugly. Having "former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" immediately followed by "FYR Macedonia" when it can simply be "FYR Macedonia" does not look good. And the fact that "FYR Macedonia" is linked to the article which perfectly explains the "FYR" etc. makes having them in the artist and song articles redundant. The fact that the material was sourced is irrelevant here, I don't dispute the material, or the sourcing. I dispute the material's relevance in the specific articles you placed it in. I told you you were about to break 3RR, and you did it anyway. Then I reported it. You refuse to acknowledge you were edit-warring, and portray me as a vandal. And you've been edit-warring in these articles with other users for a long time, so maybe you should look at

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yesterday all that nonsense about plagiarism. The way it was worded implied that Warner and Bates did acknowledged copyright issues on par with Elliot Goldenthal's score "Titus". This is far from true. On that basis alone I had the "right" (in fact the obligation) to remove every single line, ignoring even the intext citations. Anyway there were no given sources for that with the exception of that non-english article/commend, published somewhere on the web, possibly talking about similarities, and that's that. I also knew (from day one, some 14 months ago) every single reference put forward regarding this "issue" in wikipedia and elsewhere. (Yes, I am

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moving more and more towards the role of a single-purpose account pursuing your ethnic agenda through persistent slow edit-warring (instead of, for instance, turning your attention to tidying up your old plagiarism skeletons in the closet, as maybe you should). This is easily demonstrable and will certainly have its effect should your name come up at the relevant notice boards. Fair warning given.

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Republic of Ireland is sorted on I. Marek Jankulovski's father Pando IS from Macedonia and DID imigrated to Czech Republic and I found page that confirms that and you say that it's 'falsification of the references'. I'm sorry that you think we don't have our history and culture but you're wrong. And don't give that 'I never said so' crap because we all know what you think of us. Regards,

1978: 1306:(edit conflict, twice) Well here's the dispute; I don't think there is a legitimate reason to include that content in the Mojot Svet article when another article that (legitimately) contains that content is linked to. I'm not going to continue this discussion any longer, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't turn this to an attack page against me (BalkanFever). 594: 317:(Ottoman Empire). And by that name it was treated, in the English language (and not only) in academia, popular culture, media and elsewhere during the 16th up to 19th century, also widely during the best part of the 20th century, even up to the historical treatment of present-day historians and other published authors (21st century). -- 1686:, i cited existing books. i mentioned their name and authors. i also put their google book entry only to make it easy for the reader to find them, not question their existence, even read them or the relevant part without having to do the search himself. then you come and delete the sources both URLs to google books 406:? That way, we know that the matter has been hashed out in other venues, and there is consensus for a different view. I am concerned with the practice of reverting the article to look one way when others revert it back or otherwise, which de-stabilizes the article. I am not saying your view is wrong, but I 1367:

Even though I do not claim (or remotely imply) to include myself in that "we" (i.e. "we the historians"), it's always nice to have some sense of "moral relativism". Sto diatayta twra! Since it was a genuine offer, I have activated my email so please contact me to arrange the details; hope by tommorow

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instances where some webmasters got it wrong by alphabetizing as "F-Y-R Macedonia" after "France".) The snippet provided for Jankulovski reads "His father, Pando Jankulovski, emigrated to Czechoslovakia from Macedonia." There is no clarification what-so-ever about which "Macedonia" guardian.co.uk is

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mention of "Aegean refugee from the Greek Civil War". I do not claim that he wasn't. I just don't know, that's why I have requested some reliable and verifiable English-language sources. I know that you have your perceptions of history and culture. Please try to see beyond the superfluous nonsense,

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With respect, I am surmising that not all of the articles where these discussions are occurring are not GA or FA articles. If you are ironing the issue out in those places, could I impose upon you to perhaps wait until some conclusion is reached in those other places before posting a summary of that

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Who said that I was going to enforce the sanctions in this case? Obviously, I won't. But it is a simple fact that other administrators tend to listen to me when I request sanctions. They know what my role in this field is, and they trust my judgment not despite that but because of it. You have been

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are looking as a pile of useless junk. Authors, titles, publishers (when mentioned), ISBNs (when mentioned and omitted page numbers), are piled together without any short of order or purpose. Their usability, clarity or functionality are close to zero, not to mention their cosmetics. As for a URL,

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What's wrong with you. It's Republic of Macedonia's national basketball team not FYROM. It also says that it competes in FIBA tournaments as the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYR Macedonia). The basic name of FYR Macedonia is Macedonia so it will be sorted on M not F, FYR is just adding as

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policy. He claims in his accusations that I do not use edit summaries, when in fact the exact opposite is true. I have repeatedly explained my edits through the use of talk pages and edit summaries and if anything else my edit summaries can be considered lengthy, if not too accurate and detailed.

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Why you ask? Because Greeks have never been a majority or large minority in the town in modern history. In total their are like 500 Greeks in the Republic of Macedonia, i dont really care if it is posted but their are other languages spoken in Bitola and other minority groups more prominent than

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My apologies if I was unclear in my comments. When you are making a point likely to inspire dissent, it is usually best to take the time to proceed tot he article discussion and resolve any issues beforehand. This is even more important in the case of FA articles, as they are supposed to be more

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tactics (perhaps for imposing some short of political hegemony over Balkan related articles ?) demonstrated by you. I'm sorry but I can not see how one can act as an administrator, an enforcer, or even a close "counsellor" to other administrators/arbitrators when s/he is so actively involved in

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No, I did not begin my editing with "problems problems problems", I made other contributions before then. It's less confusing than you using "ditto" in edit summaries. Let me explain something: we got into an editorial dispute. My edits to the Eurovision articles have been solely to improve the

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aware about your efforts and long, frustating and often bitter discussions you had in this article). Mind you, there was some minor-edit-war going on between Bulgarian and Slav-Macedonian editors about the origins of a song, affecting the article. Now this and any other issues will be addressed

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I understand your concerns, I really do. But I have followed that particular issue for some time now and I am engaging in the talk pages of pertinent articles. I do not have to repeat everything in every article, for the same "issue". An accurate summary, directing to the relevant sections and

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carried the burden of proof and to build consensus in the talk page. Dispite that I have tried to accomodate you and provide clear and verifiable sources from reliable publishers/authors and to explain that we have a duty to report that "Constantinople" was the capital of the Ottoman Sultanate

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problem, the bullshit which is "local Slavic". When you are happy with local Hellenic, i will be happy with Local Slavic. You are obviously so ignorant and stubborn, because you yourself know that they speak Macedonian. But i guess someone has to push forward the Greek POV. My problem is that

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I understand where you are coming from and to be quite honest that was exactly the reason why I chose to engage in another talk page (not 300's). Plus, many interested editors where involved in that other article, so the chances to get some input were much higher. I was the one who edited out

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That doesn't stop it from being edit warring. And in the present instance, you failed to understand my point. First, get that stupid over-linking out, that's just an issue of style policy. One link per line, not more. Second, I'm not saying the ethnicity is wrong, it's irrelevant. Irrelevant

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stable than normal articles (they usually serve as templates for other articles seeking to emulate FA anf GA standards). t would be very helpful if you could take the time to seek a consensus in the article discussion before proceeding with an edit that has already been reverted by others. -

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No worries. My initial intention anyway, a couple of days back, was to move the discussion in the song's article so the stability of this FA would not be affected. That's what I've meant by leaving this FA "alone". I also like to apologize for not making myself clear earlier on and for any

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Fair enough. If my way of bringing the matter to your attention was unfriendly, please accept my apology, for none was intended. I don't want you to leave the article "alone"; I just want to make sure the major issues are resolved fully before they are introduced in, thereby avoiding the

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the name of the books and authors. what is exactly the rationale of such move? does the existence of the entry of the books in google books, make the names of the books and their authors invalid for citing? cause my logic says the opposite way around would be more sensible.

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Yes, I know there were more links. That's why I removed them, see? In accordance with policy. And you reinserted them all, contrary to policy. Twice. And without discussing. And after being pointed to the relevant policy. That's disruptive edit warring.

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I have not accused you for sock-puppetry, now or ever. All I know is that there are some highly suspicious looking (coordinated?) efforts by the aforementioned users, including yourself. As for the rest I stand by them. You have entered the editing of

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You know, you can do other things on wikipedia, for example try to improve the Greek articles rather than vandalise articles about MACEDONIAN people and events. Knowledge (XXG) has a neutral point of view. I already warned the administrators.

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elsewhere, leaving this FA "alone". If, in the near future pertinent, reliable and credible sources surface, then, simply we are going to address any issues in a NPOV way. As it stands though this plagiarism claim is just a non-issue. --

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I am very calm, and I do mean it. I would suggest the same to you. Please do not revert reliably sourced material which naming convention and presentation is in accordance of our policies and guidelines. As for the warnings to

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I am limiting you to one revert per page per day for 3 months. This is due to your recent edit-warring. Given that your talk page is full of nothing but "Please stop edit-warring", you can hardly have any complaints.

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3rd slander. When someone disagrees with your edits he/she automatically becomes disruptive. I am increasingly having concerns about certain editing patterns, administrative "choices" and most importantly about

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I have not seen a clear-cut new consensus on the issue. It seems to me that if "Macedonian Slavic" is to be used, in some cases (not all Slavic toponyms justify such a name) then this need to be directed to the

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choose a somewhat "polemic" way which, in fact, could affect the stability of the article. A simple click on my link and a few minutes to investigate my contributions and edit summaries would had spared us this

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What's the difference? Both are merely geographic qualifiers. Local Slavic simply means the Slavic dialect peculiar to that part of Macedonia. The piped article discusses the linguistic classification, what's

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You were going around changing names when there was an established consensus on the matter and you were, clearly, made aware of it. I've seen the discussions in the talk page of FPS and elsewhere but

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Unfortunately due to your recent actions, I can not assume good faith. Your reverts constitute also vandalism (removing reliable sources) and unconstructive, hostile editing (edit-warring). --

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unless you're sure they have committed it. In particular, avoid using the word in edit summaries (such as "reverting vandalism"), and be very careful about posting

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Greece. I have no problem with local Hellenic, but it seems your side has a problem with giving any prominence to the Greek names of places in the FYROM. So while

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I have never attacked you personally or otherwise. Ever. I commend on the content and the circumstances (as suspicious as they may be) in a civil manner, only. --

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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.

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What "edit-warring" is that? I always try to thorougly explain and support with reliable sources most (if not every) edit or proposal I make. --

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What is your problem with Macedonian Slavic? This is the language which these people speak, not some pseudo-language known as "local Slavic".

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The situation isn't so simple, and you know it. The language is simply not called "Macedonian" in Greece, and we are talking about places

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Since no administrator have reviewed my request yet, I will try to briefly present some specifics regarding this case In response to the

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of them (you have left the links to the years) but what this have got to do with my proposed phrasing? Is this some short of

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well that's good to have (accounting even for its ephemerality) but preferably when a proper published reference, cited

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I did discuss it; in my edit summary, in its talk page and (still I am duscussing it) here! OK my bad, you did removed

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An indicative incident might be the following. He begins his peculiar aggressive editing by reverting my contribution

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Complete and utter nonsense. Opportunistic attitudes like this, undermines the usefulness of valuable tools like the

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and not a sub-section of another article. On the other hand, I think that probably ] remains the better choice. --

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Too much of it. From you. All over the place. I might see some revert limitation somewhere around the corner.

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have been following me around removing sourced material from reliable sources, cited in accordance of our

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I would like to request an unblock since I was not given the opportunity to respond to these accusations.

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we should strive for an article that could may well stand on its own i.e. without the need to refer to

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What misuse of vandalism-template are you referring to? And please sign your posts in my talk page. --

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Very lame edit-warring there. 1RR per page per week for 6 weeks. I've also sanctioned the other one.

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Interested in a particular area of Greek history, geography, culture etc. ? There are already two

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Well the slavic dialects peculiar to Macedonia, are a language. The Macedonian language. What is

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who was the first to remove the reference of Constantinople as the capital of the Ottoman Empire

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The one on Isavevski's talk page. BTW you're about to break 3RR. Calm down a bit.

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I'm not even going to bother any more. Your incivility is beyond help.

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