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that there's been (way more than) enough of this and everyone should move on as soon as possible, I think the direction to do that in is to let xkcdreader's contribution stand, at least until an uninvolved editor (no canvassing!) objects to it. Seriously, I understand that strict policy means xkcdreader was bold, got reverted, and now discussion happens. But discussion has been happening. For way too long. And this is not a big article-destroying thing in question here. I know I would be hesitant to concede to this on an article I WP:OWNed, but can the objectors here just let it slide for a while so all this talk-page thrashing can finally settle down? Let it stand for a week and see if any passers-by object. Or call a 3PO if you want to attract passers-by to give their opinions. Xkcdreader seems like a very diligent editor who is eager to improve the encyclopedia, and I would hate to have you guys scare him off by objecting so vehemently to such a minor thing. --Pfhorrest (talk) 04:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)" I am contending that the reaction to my disruption is the bigger issue. The chemo is worse than the cancer.
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And Chris, I am not sure what you are being told through back channels but "We have a compromise as long as I am allowed to keep editing my own user pages. I would like to make some personal backups of things under my own account, before they get archived" was the very first thing I said before they
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You're kidding right? No consensus was reached either way. Somebody will have every right to bring it up later once the dust has settled. The block was to prevent me from being disruptive. If they want to reblock me, that is fine. I don't see why they should delete my contribution as well. You
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of what he asked of me. Bring the admin Elen of the Roads in. I have been acting in good faith this entire time. Rob is trying to paint me as some kind of criminal that I'm not. (and I would have been done with this like a day ago, but we are having trouble finding me a sandbox.)
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are. If you plan to maintain/update/tweak them some more, I suggest cutting and pasting them to one of the sister project sandboxes I linked for you." - 28bytes. I believe I have permission to leave documents there as long as I don't maintain them.
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Well, this is not what I wanted to see on my talk page this morning. Xkcdreader, I will take you at your word that you've made your final edits to that stuff. Any more Star Trek related edits and I will restore the block, understand?
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So commons deleted it too.Ā :( I submitted it to wikidata to try there. Do you think I will be safe on wikidata? I just noticed, the wikimedia guy said to try books. Do you know anything about wikibooks?
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Do I just keep stabbing in the dark until someone will let me have a sandbox to play in? I don't see how it is appropriate for simple or common either. Is that content now permanently lost? Maybe talk to
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Look, the only thing I want is for my work to be here after I leave. I don't understand the problem. Can we leave this between me and 28bytes, and not start a lynch mob?
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