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made public by Arbcom (Malleus, but you already knew that though, huh?)B)you seem to have not explained your actions and have given attitude to Rich F. above ("I think were going to have to disagree on that one"). I have alerted Rich F./Kum. via their talkpages of this notice. Please be advised that actions such as this will only get you bought into negative spotlight in the future. Please seek advice before acting hostily such as. Lastly, do treat all users equally as you do with
Malleus. As I note, you nearly retired last year when Arbcom were leaning to topic ban Malleus. Maybe you are too emotionally connected/too young to/for the project to be editing in this capacity. I have a feeling you maybe letting Malleus secretly use your admin account, checkuser maybe of necessary recourse. Please take needed time off.
1150:, Arbcom did that, I just supported it and I still do. Sarek used to be a great admin, over the years he has become callous and no longer listens to the story. He levees severe blocks without hesitation. That is not the type of Admin we need here. Sandstein is a powermonger and Fram is an idiot and there are plenty more bad ones out there as well just like these three. If we get rid of some of these bad admins maybe some of the 640+ others will start participating if some of the jerks are moved out of the way. Right now there isn't any room to get past the big ego's. Anyway, I expect this to be deleted as atacks or whatever. It doesn't matter, I just wanted to explain some things and set the record straight. Not that I beleive for a second anyone cares. As you can see I am still a little pissed off. Kumioko
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Sandstein, Fram, Sarek and others that want to block everyone and open up months long Arbcom cases against every editor they don't agree with, then manipulate policy so they are even more powerful and can do even more they don't need contributors like me who want to build an encyclopedia. 28bytes is right, I am fed up with this place, the toxic culture, the us and them admin to editor attitudes and with the politics of it all. I wanted to contribute but the power elite just want to insult and bully so I don't have time for that crap.
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963:, but the short version is, he kept editing projectspace pages as an IP without identifying himself, after being asked again and again not to do that. I made it clear that if he agreed not to do that anymore, I would lift the block, but by that point he was so fed up with Knowledge that he got the stewards to globally lock his account.
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Hi. I see you have not provided good reason to your block of Kumoku to admin Rich F. above. Please be advised that your actions are under scrutiny, I have contacted Jimbo by email. The reason I am appalled by your actions is, A)you seem to have not blocked a user for similar socking issues that were
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next I want to clarify a couple other things. Clean start is an ineffective crap policy and should be deleted since the culture here doesn't support it. You can't do a clean start without being dishonest and you certainly can't do it with the same user name. Eventually someone will call you out for
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Just wanted to comment. That's why I created this account. The
Kumioko account is permalocked, someone would find a reason to block me for socking if my "new" username doesn't contain Kumioko in it and clean start is a garbage unsupported policy so that's why I named the account the way I did. If
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Greetings all, I saw a lot of traffic with my name on it today so I just wanted to make a couple passing comments. First, thanks Rich for the kind words in the various venues. I appreciate it but there's no need to spend time defending my actions. This place isn't worth it to me anymore. If they
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Kumioko wishes to leave the project and to be
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Thanks! It was very informative! The question would be - if a Target is Ursurp'd to a user - and the target made about 10 edits in 2005 - would the target's edits still be out there as made by "Vanished" or would they be "Gone" "Gone" as in no record whatsoever?
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Wikiknowledge - what does "usurp accounts" refer to? The only article I could find says its outdated.
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Hersfold and Sandstein being confrontational. And even if there was an indef block serves no purpose, certainly it does not
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Hi there. I don't think I've ever seen two simultaneous requests to usurp accounts from one editor, so I'm leaving that one for a 'crat who's been around longer to handle.
1061:- but that IP was already well known to be Kumioko, and he was not blocked when he made that edit. Therefore the edit was neither block evasion, nor illegitimate socking.
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Well yeah but then it gets weird - it says 06:07, 23 June 2011 Gogo Dodo (talk | contribs) deleted page
Materialscientist (Mass deletion of pages added by Ppged55567855jd)
869:..ahh I see - (sorry a lil dense) it is Gogo deleting the crap on Materialscientist's page and simultainously cracking the whip on some dude named Ppged55567855jd!
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Is there a problem? Who should I discuss this with? Thank you. —
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