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While what you've left at GoG is very terse, it has cut out a great deal of POV guff. But it has also cut out some key sourced material not available in other articles. I'll be back at GoG at some point: what you've got there at the page is a better starting point than leaving much of the other fluff
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Several newspapers reported that he had been nominated as ambassador and didn't speculate on whether or not the Senate would approve of it. I suspect that he will be selected because he hasn't been criticized by any significant voices in the Church or the State. His chances of being vetted are about
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There's something about what you've done that suggests an effective strategy at Wiki. Some articles collect barnicles. A ruthless outsider bypassing consensus avoids people's feelings being hurt. I can't see it being the best normal practice, but I can see it doing good. Cautiously I wish you well,
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I don't have a conflict of interest, I was just collecting a bit of material from her press editorials. Since I don't know her personally, I am fairly sure that she has more of a conflict of interest than I do. Also, I personally wouldn't mind if you re-stubbed the entry because I don't think the
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I replied on the AfD discussion - you are right. Check the latest version. I was meaning to trim the article down a bit, focus it more on the relations, but you got there first! I think it is now reasonably focused, but gives enough background for the casual reader. That is, for someone who is
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in order to smoothen the reading of certain entries. I think it is really more a question of form than of substance, since none of the edits really changes the entire article, it just re-arranges it in a different way.
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I just noticed some radical work by you at the Gender of God page. I notice you seem to be radical in other places and don't talk much. Also you don't offer an email contact.
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I've deleted the article for now. I'll restore it if better sources are found. For these types of allegations we cannot hope that someone will come along later and fix it up.
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